In a dharma talk contained in the book "Golden Wind", Eido Shimano Roshi uses 
the terms 
"honbun" and "shusho". I am wondering if anyone on this list has any other 
references for 
these terms - or any kind of "literal" or "metaphorical" definitions to add to 
what Eido 
Roshi has to say. 

Here is an extended excerpt (it's taken from his talk on case 73 from the Blue 
Cliff Record 
"Baso, Chizo, Ekai"):

The transmission of the dharma does not require any written documents. The only 
important matter is to understand the real nature of the universe. In order to 
do this, it 
will be helpful to understand the distinction between "honbun" and "shusho". 
Unless these 
are clearly distinguished, only confusion arises. We have no perfect English 
equivalent for 
these words, but perhaps "fundamental" or "essential" will do for "honbun". For 
perhaps we can translate it as "existential" or "ever-changing.

I will use the wind to illustrate the difference between "honbun" and "shusho". 
Whether the 
wind is a fragrant spring wind, or a cold winter wind, or just a gentle wind, 
after all, the 
iwind is merely a movement of air. Metaphorically speaking, "honbun" 
(fundamental) refers 
to this air and "shusho" (existential) is the changing condition of the wind.

Our True Nature, our Endless Dimension Universal Nature, was never created and 
never be destroyed, as far as "honbun" goes.

In the realm of "honbun", there is no loss, no gain, no birth, no death, no 
good, no evil, no 
small, no large. But as far as "shusho" is concerned, as you can see, there is 
strong and 
weak, coming and going, deep and shallow. Thus in our zazen we often feel 

Sometimes we thing, "Today's zazen is not as good as yesterday's." Or, "I feel 
because my zazen is not as good as it should be." Or, "I am very pleased that I 
entered some sound samadhi."

Most of us are fooled by these thoughts. We are controlled by ever-changing 
We become slaves of conditions. Realization of Mu (True Nature) means to 
realize the fact 
that the fundamental My nature is far beyond good and bad, deep or shallow. 
This is 
------------------[ end of excerpt]

- Curt

Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are 
reading! Talk about it today! 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:

Reply via email to