Dear Donald: Please do save us from all that comparations and continuos arrogance. In this particular list, I have found extremely difficult an easy communication. The more simple things said most of the times became a verbal competition and because my Englis is atrocious I do tend to get entangled with the words.
You should give a lot of more insight coming from yourself experience rather than a rain of words that you have borrowed from someone else. I was trying to establish with Bill his way of understanding the practice and because of that words got entangled, and so what it is to you?. Mayka --- In [email protected], donald hwong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Good morning Bill, > > Mayka's answer typifies one of the major difference between a Chinese Linage and wester Zen. This is what I have discovered after learning about Zen in English. > > Most of the Chinese Buddhists believe our Buddha nature are within us, but only through Chan practice can we rid of karma and let it shine through. > > A Chan practitioner means in Chinese to cultivate Bodhisattva Heart and to act in Bodhisattva way - a cycle fine-tunes each other until "everything" is consummated, satisfied and fulfilled. Which is the Third Practice in our school. > > While a meditative practice based on Chi enable the practitioner to be connected with the universe, it constantly feeds the practitioner with life force and wisdom far beyond his mental capacity. > > Chi foundation seems to be another major difference between a Chinese Chan practitioner and a western one. When BodhiDharma taught for the first time in China, at Shaolin, both Motion Chan and Sitting Chan, the only common thread of the two is the cultivation of the Chi/Qi/Ki. > > Without Chi, there is no power to transform a person. Without Chi the entire practice becomes a mental interpretation of the experience instead of the experience itself. > > This may be why the foundamental Buddhism of karma and cause and effect is not a major teaching in western Zen, because there is no practice to support it. > > These are just my personal observations after discussion with several western Zen priests. > > Do let me know your comments. > > _/\_ > Donald > > Mayka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bill Wrote: > > > Why do you believe you are not a living Buddha yourself, and that > there is > > nothing else that you need to become? .Bill! > > > > Mayka answers: > > A real living Buddha has free his/her mind and I haven't achieved that > yet. So, I can not call myself a living Buddha but someone with an > aspiration of being a real living Buddha. > > Mayka > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/kOt0.A/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/S27xlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today! Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
