--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Bill,
> 
> Maybe you say they are illusory, but you still follow and live  
> according to the rules of causality 24/7 and have been all your 
life,  
> except perhaps when sitting in zazen. Why is that if they aren't  
> valid rules?

Not only by sitting zazen but also by practicing conscious breathing 
during the day while doing other things.

> You need to be careful in maintaining illusions aren't 'real'.  
> Illusion is part and parcel of reality but should be recognized as  
> illusion. Even when seen as illusion, it still doesn't disappear,  
> only its seeming realness disappears.

I could not be more agree.




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