About filling your head with too much "muddle":
I've always been a worrier. I adopted reading as a coping mechanism, and 
eventually started working my way through the Sherlock Holmes collection.
When confronted by Dr. Watson about the limits of his general knowledge (his 
knowledge is all specialized towards being a detective, with one exception: 
playing the violin), he likens the mind to an attic. An attic only has limited 
space - so he chooses his knowledge carefully, so as not to "clutter up" his 
"mind-attic" with useless knowledge.
I found it a terrific analogy, and it seemed to help me to realize that 
remembering everything is not necessary, nay, it is detrimental to your working 
mind. So now I don't feel so guilty about letting go of some useless knowledge, 
when I realize that it's happened.  :D

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, "gunnar19632000" <gunnar19632...@...> wrote:
> Greetings to all
> This is just a short one for the moment, as it has been pretty rough on the 
> body during work, with little sleep. There's really nothing complicated to 
> Quaker contemplation. You just sit there until God, or godly realization 
> comes to you, and you then share it with 'friends'. We believe that that 
> there is something of God or godly quality in each and every individual. This 
> 'inner light' is one that allows one to comprehend that 'greater something' 
> out there and what emanates from Him, but that's what we believe. A bad 
> person may have that 'inner light' or guidance within him/her, but may choose 
> not to follow as so. The attractiveness of darkness, is sometimes more 
> appetizing than light itself. Having once followed a corruption of an already 
> corrupt path called Wicca once, I should be quite familiar with such  
> The RELIGIOUS SOCIETY OF FRIENDS often refer to themselves as friends, but 
> the term Quaker(originally a term of insult) is for simplification, and we 
> here in Melbourne certainly don't 'quake'
> We don't sit in any special position as done in zazen. A chair is fine. 
> Someone in the (Quaker) meeting might look like they have fallen asleep, but 
> not so. There is no upright posture(with relaxed shoulders) with the top of 
> your head pressing against the sky, your 'hara' pressing downwards to the 
> earth, and your hands in 'mudra' position/placing
> The emphasis on Zen and Tao are not about gathering intellectual 
> knowledge...for example, like OWL from the TAO OF POOH and THE TE OF PIGLET. 
> Many Christians such as some Quakers are however, gatherers of knowledge. I 
> admit that there has always been that part of me that follows the same 
> drum-beat as OWL, although (Shunryu)Suzuki-sensei basically teach in his 
> writings that filling your head with too much muddle can be detrimental, but 
> with an 'owl' like me...well...what can I say? Once an OWL, always an OWL..
> I'll be writing more later. Gotta get some sleep
> peace unto all
> Mel


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