Stalin says, 'one agnostic shakes the world, but a million agnostics are just a 
statistic.'

Anthony

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From: billsm...@hhs1963.org <billsm...@hhs1963.org>
Subject: RE: [Zen] Re: Don't pray in my school and I won't think in your church.
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 17 October, 2010, 9:00 PM







 



  


    
      
      
      







Ed, 

One is a single agnostic.  Two would be a pair of
agnostics.  Three or more would be a gaggle of agnostics. 

…Bill! 

   







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Bill, 

Next question: What sort of agnostic is one? 

--ED 

  

"Strong agnosticism or positive agnosticism is the belief
that it is impossible for humans to know whether or not any deities
exist. It is a broader view than weak agnosticism,
which states that the existence or nonexistence of any deities is unknown but
not necessarily unknowable. 

Strong agnosticism is usually justified on the epistemological
grounds that humans can only experience the natural world and thus cannot know
about anything which may exist outside it, including deities. One criticism is
that this justification is only valid if deities are viewed as exclusively 
supernatural
beings, but to support such a view one must have at least some knowledge of the
nature of deities. The agnostic reply is, as the natural world can be explained
by science, the defining feature of any deity must be supernatural. 

Since strong agnosticism concerns knowledge and not necessarily belief
(depending on how "belief" and "knowledge" are defined), it
may be reconciled with theism (as in fideism) or weak
atheism (as in agnostic atheism).
However, it cannot be reconciled with strong atheism,
as strong atheism makes a positive assertion that God does not exist, without
the possibility that God may exist and just be unknowable. 

The viewpoint has also been described in a semi-humorous fashion as
"militant agnosticism", with the tagline "I don't know, and you
don't either"." 





 







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