Bill,

Is the highlighted sentence an appropriate one from an asylum?

Anthony

--- On Thu, 21/10/10, billsm...@hhs1963.org <billsm...@hhs1963.org> wrote:

From: billsm...@hhs1963.org <billsm...@hhs1963.org>
Subject: RE: [Zen] Tantric Crazy Wisdom
To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 21 October, 2010, 8:39 AM







 



  


    
      
      
      







Mayka, 

   

‘Eat your heart out’ refers to envy  - envida.  It
means you think the one you are talking too is envious. 

   

…Bill! 

   







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I was (jokingly) hinting that Drukpa Kunley was a lot more
successful than Anthony in certain specific male obsessional behaviors! 

--ED 

  

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  What does the expression "Eat
  your heart out" means? 
  

  --- On Wed, 20/10/10, ED <seacrofter...@...> wrote: 
  
  

  Fro  
  
  
  
  
  Eat your heart out, Anthony!  ;-) --ED 
  
  
    
  
  "Drukpa Kunley 
  
  Drukpa Kunley, popularly known as the Bhutan's
  Divine Madman, was known for his crazy wisdom. 
  
  
    
  
  
  Lama Drukpa Kunley is one of the strangest religious and
  historical characters in the exotic land of Bhutan. One of the great
  religious teachers and holy men, Drukpa Kunley, is known all over Bhutan as
  `The Divine Madman'.  
  
  
    
  
  
  Eccentric and only one of his kinds, Drukpa Kunley was
  born in Tibet in 1455. There are many legends associated to him that talk of
  various miracles and his outlandish behavior. He is believed to have been an
  extremely precocious child who could remember all of his previous incarnations
  vividly. He became disillusioned with the world when his father was killed in
  a family feud and renounced it forever, turning to a religious life and
  becoming a monk. However, it seems he did not find peace in monkshood and
  gave up his robes in his early twenties.

  

  He lived as a mendicant, practiced spiritual arts and magic and wandered all
  over the country. He crossed the borders to enter Bhutan and purposefully
  lived in an unorthodox way and despised accepted ways of behavior to expose
  the hypocrisy of the world; the selfish motives behind them and greed that
  lead people to follow them. 
  
  
    
  
  
  His approach to motivate people to be honest and live a
  spiritual life was weird to say the least. He himself led a lewd lifestyle
  that would have been considered very immoral, according to our standards.
  This great lama used to sing, drink with young ladies and have sex with
  virgins. His legends mostly portray him as drinking `chang' (a sort of
  Tibetan beer), making love to a maiden or striking sown evil entities and 
demons
  with his `Flaming Thunderbolt of Wisdom' [phallus]. 

  

  Bhutan's Divine Madman believed in divine excess and used to mock and
  ridicule the establishments and priests that led dual lives. Some of his
  feats and miracles included blessing or damning families, according to their
  moral treatment of others; turn tiny quantities of tea into superfluous
  amounts that would be sufficient for thousands of people; slaughtering
  animals for their meat and then restoring them to life from their bones;
  exorcising evil sp! irits; reforming demons and being able to travel on a
  spiritual plane with the ability to travel thousands of miles almost
  instantaneously.  
  
  
    
  
  
  It is a miracle in itself that Bhutanese, who are very
  conservative and never show affection in public, adore this holy man and
  paint `flying phalluses' on the exteriors of their homes to represent him. It
  is believed that this will protect the house from evil spirits and promote
  fertility. Drukpa Kunley also founded a monastery near the town of Punakha,
  dedicated to fertility. 
  
  
    
  
  
  Hundreds of people from all over Bhutan visit this
  monastery to pray for children and in the temple; a monk holding a symbolic
  phallus blesses them." 
  
  
  http://www.himalaya2000.com/bhutan/drukpa-kunley.html 
  
  
    
  
  
  Bill wote:

  

  My comments are embedded below:

  

  A Tantric story describes an 'enlightened' person as killing fish, drinking
  wine

  and having an affair with women. Is that the outcome of your highlighted

  statement below?

  

  [Bill!'s Highlighted Statement] It stops the imperative to classify things as

  moral/immoral or altruistic/selfish.

  

  [Bill!] The outcome for YOU would be that YOU would judge other people's

  behavior as moral or immoral.

  

  [Bill!] On a similar note the last stage of the Ten Ox Herding Pictures shows

  the fully enlighten sage returning the village carrying a jug of wine and a

  fish. Are the sage's actions moral or immoral?

  

  Bill!

  

   
  
  
    
  
  
  
  
  
  
 








 







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