Hi Anthony,
 
I've heard  about this...  I've also heard that if everyone in the world sat in 
a circle, and placed their  problems in the center-- most would take their own 
problems  back.  Hope all is well with you. ~ k


--- On Wed, 2/2/11, Anthony Wu <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Anthony Wu <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Eightfold Path
To: [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 5:11 PM


  



Steve,

Thank you for releasing me from a constant fear of being attacked by 
enlightened beings. As regards 'tonglen', it is supposed to give away one's 
good luck, in exchange for taking others' bad luck. This is a great 
bodhisatva's practice. However, the Buddhist principle is that you can only 
work on your own karma by yourself, and it is impossible to have others 
influence your karma. Of course, they can guide you toward creating good karma. 
Is tonglen in conformity with Buddhism?

Anthony
--- On Wed, 2/2/11, SteveW <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: SteveW <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Zen] Re: Eightfold Path
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Wednesday, 2 February, 2011, 6:02 AM
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> Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 <chan.jmjm@...>
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> > Thank you, Steve. This is also my observation.
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> > merit, it is not a concept, or a way of teaching. It
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> Thank you, JM. Yes, I agree. A friend of mine who
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