Bill ...I meant as a music combat. Can you remember about the zen poetry combat?...The same with music. Really nice to hear from you. Mayka
--- On Mon, 14/2/11, Maria Lopez <[email protected]> wrote: From: Maria Lopez <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Pain Management 1 - Stopping To: [email protected] Date: Monday, 14 February, 2011, 10:17 Bill; I don't fully understand the song but I like its straight forward language. Can you point it out the verses you mention in your post?. As a response to your mp3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FD7HD1iHzw Mayka --- On Mon, 14/2/11, Bill! <[email protected]> wrote: From: Bill! <[email protected]> Subject: [Zen] Re: Pain Management 1 - Stopping To: [email protected] Date: Monday, 14 February, 2011, 0:56 I couldn't help but comment that the three steps you list below are exactly the message put forward in FIGHT CLUB...Bill! --- In [email protected], Maria Lopez <flordeloto@...> wrote: > >  > Pain Management 1 â€" Stopping >  > > > We all have the experience of having experienced pain at certain moments in > our lives. How often have we be having pain in us and kept doing different > activities in the body and the mind without listen to our pain calling our > attention?. Some of us seem to only listen to it when the pain becomes a s > screaming child having a tantrum. > > > At the first sign of pain one should learn how to stop. Only when one knows > how to stop there wherever one is, the pain won't escalate at such high > degrees of hysteria. But if still by stopping escalates to higher levels of > severity it won't be the same as when one doesn't know how to stop. And by no > meanings the same if you are a practitioner or you are not, if you are in > severe pain and need to scream, cried out, go into tears...do it. And stay > with it. Never try to repress your pain in anyway. Very important to > understand this. To repress pain it only will make it worse. > > > Pain involves body and mind and therefore the awareness of the in and out > breathing used as the tool that unites body and mind is the most important > tool through pain management. The body on its own and separated from the mind > can't survive. What's happening to the body is also happening in the mind. > And viceverse. Therefore both have to be one working in a team. The body and > the mind has to become one sangha in harmony at those moments. And there is > not other way for that the awareness of the in and out breathing acting as > the bridge uniting both as one organism. > > > In order to stop: > 1- One has to recognise that one is in pain . It's not exactly the same to > have pain as to have pain and being aware of having pain. > 2- Acceptance that there is pain. > 3- Staying with the pain. > > > At the first go of acknowledging pain and staying with it, one may experience > an increment level of pain. Don't be discouraged by that and stay with it > even if makes you yell, cry or scream. Express out any sound if that help you > to stay there with your pain. It's a natural response of the mind this > apparent incrementation of pain. That is the mind used to run away of pain > which can't handle now facing it. Stay with it. At a later stage you will > find out that the hardest is that moment of facing and staying with that > pain, the most healing energy at the same time you are getting into your > body. > > > Have a resting day! > Mayka >
