Mayka, The 3 points you list below aren't specifically referred to in the song I posted, but there is a scene in the movie that is exactly the same as these 3 points.
...Bill! --- In [email protected], Maria Lopez <flordeloto@...> wrote: > > Bill; > I don't fully understand the song > but I like its straight forward language. Can you point it out the verses > you mention in your post?. >  > As a response to your mp3 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FD7HD1iHzw >  > Mayka >  >  >  > --- On Mon, 14/2/11, Bill! <BillSmart@...> wrote: > > > From: Bill! <BillSmart@...> > Subject: [Zen] Re: Pain Management 1 - Stopping > To: [email protected] > Date: Monday, 14 February, 2011, 0:56 > > >  > > > > I couldn't help but comment that the three steps you list below are exactly > the message put forward in FIGHT CLUB...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], Maria Lopez <flordeloto@> wrote: > > > > à> > Pain Management 1 ââ¬" Stopping > > à> > > > > > We all have the experience of having experienced pain at certain moments in > > our lives. How often have we be having pain in us and kept doing different > > activities in the body and the mind without listen to our pain calling our > > attention?. Some of us seem to only listen to it when the pain becomes a s > > screaming child having a tantrum. > > > > > > At the first sign of pain one should learn how to stop. Only when one knows > > how to stop there wherever one is, the pain won't escalate at such high > > degrees of hysteria. But if still by stopping escalates to higher levels of > > severity it won't be the same as when one doesn't know how to stop. And by > > no meanings the same if you are a practitioner or you are not, if you are > > in severe pain and need to scream, cried out, go into tears...do it. And > > stay with it. Never try to repress your pain in anyway. Very important to > > understand this. To repress pain it only will make it worse. > > > > > > Pain involves body and mind and therefore the awareness of the in and out > > breathing used as the tool that unites body and mind is the most important > > tool through pain management. The body on its own and separated from the > > mind can't survive. What's happening to the body is also happening in the > > mind. And viceverse. Therefore both have to be one working in a team. The > > body and the mind has to become one sangha in harmony at those moments. And > > there is not other way for that the awareness of the in and out breathing > > acting as the bridge uniting both as one organism. > > > > > > In order to stop: > > 1- One has to recognise that one is in pain . It's not exactly the same to > > have pain as to have pain and being aware of having pain. > > 2- Acceptance that there is pain. > > 3- Staying with the pain. > > > > > > At the first go of acknowledging pain and staying with it, one may > > experience an increment level of pain. Don't be discouraged by that and > > stay with it even if makes you yell, cry or scream. Express out any sound > > if that help you to stay there with your pain. It's a natural response of > > the mind this apparent incrementation of pain. That is the mind used to run > > away of pain which can't handle now facing it. Stay with it. At a later > > stage you will find out that the hardest is that moment of facing and > > staying with that pain, the most healing energy at the same time you are > > getting into your body. > > > > > > Have a resting day!à> > Mayka > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
