Ed, Steve, You both make excellent points, and be aware that I was proposing an open perspective, as a discussion topic. Of course, I would never support exploitation or manipulation. You are saying there is no one right answer. I agree. But at the same time, can there be a "middle way" here? Doesn't sex compromise the ability to focus on one's journey or zen path? One comment on the testerone-thing. I have mentioned this here before, but while I do think its wise for males to make gains in their compassion, empathy and sensitivity to self and others, I am troubled by the trend in recent decades to 'feminize" men. You are who you are-- hormones, included. I'm not advocating rape, but like all things, embracing all that one is, and isn't-- seems the healthy way to find a balanced form of self-regulation as well as self-acceptance. But perhaps that was what you were saying. Interesting speculation on all this, though, I think. Thanks.. k
--- On Mon, 2/14/11, ED <seacrofter...@yahoo.com> wrote: From: ED <seacrofter...@yahoo.com> Subject: [Zen] Re: Antinomianism To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, February 14, 2011, 9:13 PM --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Kristy McClain <healthyplay1@...> wrote: > > Anthony, Steve and all, > ~ Switching gears to the article attached below~ > In my translation of the Bhagavad Gita, it says we have total control over > our actions, but no control over the fruits of our actions. > Anthony, what do you think of his impression of karma? > I think sex can be sacred as it is so very intimate. I think it is a matter of perspective, and is subjective. But I don't believe it must always attach loyalty or fidelity. Is there not a place for carnal lusty, sensation-driven experiences? Emotions like love can co-exist, but must they? Can it be a simple exchange of each giving and receiving what they seek? Or not? In our time, each couple can establish its own values and make its own rules - and nothing will work in the long run! :-( What do you think of his tantric interpretation? http://integrallife.com/member/jun-po-kelly-roshi/blog/defense-promiscuity ____________________________________________________________________________________ Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html