Steve!!!!!
--- In [email protected], "SteveW" <eugnostos2000@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In [email protected], Anthony Wu <wuasg@> wrote:
> >
> > Steve,
> > Â
> > Neither I nor my demon are responsible for your karmic misfortunes. No
> > bribes can alleviate your problems. BTW, do you believe in karma? If not,
> > what rules this universe?
> > Â
> > Anthony
> >
> > Hi Anthony. If everything is "One Bright Jewel" as Dogen put it,
> then all this talk of "my" karma and "your" karma is meaningless.
> For that matter, if the arrow of time is an illusion and everything
> is Here and Now, then karmic cause-and-effect is also an illusion.
> You think that the past causes the future, but there is no reason
> not to say that the future causes the past! (There have been physics
> experiments demonstrating this aspect of quantum weirdness.) When
> Nagarjuna wrote his famous Negations, he wasn't, imo, trying to
> give us an ontological explanation of reality, but nobody can
> that. So everybody tries to turn Emptiness into a fixed view-point.
> As I have said before, the basic Buddhist teachings on karma, the
> 12-fold chain of Dependant Origination and the teachings on
> impermanence and no-self are useful expedients for practice, but
> cannot be taken for a final and absolute explanation. I refer you
> to The Mahaparanirvana Sutra and the Dzogchen literature on this.
> The fact is that it will always be a Mystery from our finite,
> relative, rational view-points, because we cannot step outside
> of What Is in order to look at What Is. But we can rest in that
> Such-As-It-Is peacefully. So I really can't answer your question,
> Anthony, and I suspect that neither can anyone else. Gotama wasn't
> trying to explain reality to us. He was just giving us a skillful
> medical prescription to cure us of our Dukkha. But, as Nagarjuna
> said, those who try to turn Emptiness into a fixed explanation of
> reality are incurable. IMO.
> Steve
> >
>
------------------------------------
Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are
reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links
<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/
<*> Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional
<*> To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join
(Yahoo! ID required)
<*> To change settings via email:
[email protected]
[email protected]
<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[email protected]
<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
