--- In [email protected], Anthony Wu <wuasg@...> wrote:
>
> Steve,
>  
> Very interesting reading, though I did not go to all details.
>  
> I see that Richard Baker and Shimano are two sexual heros. Kapleau and 
> Shunryu Suzuki seem to be spared of that title. If I am wrong, please correct 
> it.
>  
> Of course, sex misconduct is one conspicuous quality. In this case, zen pales 
> against Tantric/Tibetan Buddhism, as the latter has a famous sex ritual, 
> which converts the impure into the pure by way of 'celibate sex'. What a 
> wonderful world. I can't wait to see zen followers converting to Tantrism in 
> large numbers, setting Chogyam Trungpa and Sogyal Rimpoche as examplary 
> models.
>  
> Anthony
>
  Hi Anthony. Yes, in my opinion, Tantrism does set itself up for
  such misuse. My friend who went to study at Naropa University
  was quite disillusioned. They still regard Chogyam Trungpa as
  a master of "crazy wisdom", rather than as an alcoholic who liked
  to chase underage girls.
  Steve



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