On Saturday, March 5, 2011, ED <[email protected]> wrote: > Chris, replace the third statement of my post below with: > "If not in a state of kensho-satori, the human mind can not apprehend the > truth of: 'Samsara is no different than nirvana.'"
That seems so absolutist. I do not know about kensho-satori, but I think the path that zen training is taking me down is that non duality is not adding something to life, not getting the brain into some special state. It is towards seeing the simple life right here, and not putting my attention into the gap between the life that is and the life I was expecting or hoping for. I think that belieiving something has many shades. You can belief something so that you act on it rather tentatively, with half of your body protesting; you can act on it being pretty confident, but ready for things to go wrong, or you can be whole heartedly in it, completely sure from neocortex to brainstem to toes in the belief. All is one, there is no problem! Air planes fly! One might refuse to board, board but clutch to the seat all the time, read a book,but jump whenever the noises changes, or long to sit in the window seat, eyes glued to the wonder around. One sees the oneness, the okayness in each moment, just before the layers of reaction try to cover it up in your attention. > --ED > > --- In [email protected], Chris Austin-Lane <chris@...> wrote: >> >> The patriarchs did not regard non duality as a trick. > > 'Samsara is no different than nirvana.' > Yes, but only to the non-rational mind or no-mind. > The neocortex/limbic_system which is the mind we normally reside in cannot > perform that trick. > --ED > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
