Bill,
 
Well then..
 
If they are no hidden meanings or secretive ideas-- then why didn't he just say 
that his teachings were available to all, and he expected nothing in return, 
beit praise or blame. Instead of metaphor...k


--- On Sun, 3/13/11, Bill! <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Bill! <[email protected]>
Subject: [Zen] Re: Five Poisons II
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, March 13, 2011, 8:12 PM


  



ED,

Such sayings or writings as these, including ALL koans, say exactly what they 
say - and no more. There are no hidden meanings in zen, nothing eclectic or 
secretive.

'Selling water by the river' means everything he was teaching his whole life 
was readily available to all - without him as intermediary.

'My labors have been wholly without merit.' means he acted without any thought 
or hope of merit. He just acted. No self, no karma, no merit, no blame - Just 
THIS!

...Bill!

--- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@...> wrote:
>
> 
> Master Sogaku Harada died at the age of ninety-one.
> At his funeral service hung a piece of calligraphy written by himself:
> 
> "For forty years I have been selling water by the bank of a river. Ho ho
> ho. My labors have been wholly without merit."
> 
> What did Master Sogaku Harada mean?
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], Jue Miao Jing Ming wrote:
>









      

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