Steve, What's your interpretation of "To encounter the absolute is not yet awakening"?
--Chris On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 10:43 AM, SteveW <[email protected]> wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@...> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Mike, Bill, Steve and All, >> >> In your judgment, is the perspective of Zen on meditation practice the >> same as, similar to or different from that of Ramana Maharshi? >> >> --ED >> >> Hi ED. Well, I would like to point out that the Lankavatara Sutra, which Zen >> people generally approve of, denies the existence of a Universal Self. >> Advaita Vedanta people generally assert that the Self is Nirguna, without >> qualities, while the Awakening of Faith Sutra, which Zen people generally >> endorse, asserts that Suchness is endowed with all good qualities. This >> would seem to be a contradiction. As to meditation, or at least zazen, >> obviously Zen teachers promote the practice, although they will sometimes >> say that there is not necessarily a causal relationship between zazen and >> satori. Even in those Non-Dual Hindu traditions that speak of Self, there is >> no final agreement. Advaita Vedanta asserts that the world is an unreal >> appearance superimposed upon the face of Being, while Kashmir Shaivism >> asserts that the world is real, but not separate from consciousness. > The Mahaparanirvana Sutra, another sutra that Zen people generally like, also > agrees with the Awakening of Faith sutra in regards to the inherent good > qualities of the Mahatman (Great Self) of the Buddha. > Steve > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are > reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
