Mike/Steve, Though I have had no experiences about chi, chakra etc, I watch your stories with interest. From the little I know, Shingon in Japan is also termed 'Eastern Tantra', while those schools in Tibet, which are much more colorful belong to 'Western Tantra'. They are different. In what way, you have to find it yourself. Anthony
--- On Wed, 13/4/11, mike brown <[email protected]> wrote: From: mike brown <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Does Zen contain spirituality? To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, 13 April, 2011, 7:42 AM Steve, Yes, I tend to think of this more as a diagnostic marker than anything else. That's a good idea about Shingon, but the irony is that I'd probably be better off in the UK or Australia to learn about it (due to the language barrier). Ah well, 'move on Bikkhus', as the Buddha would say. Mike From: SteveW <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, 13 April, 2011 8:23:40 Subject: [Zen] Re: Does Zen contain spirituality? --- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusuboyo@...> wrote: > > Steve, > > Unfortunately, I'm in Japan and the teacher didn't speak English. I'm just > looking now at a few Vipassana sites that seem to be explaining the process > quite well. After 10 years of Zen, all this "energy centres" stuff is quite > an > adventure! Kinda like being in a 'psychic fairground' as one person put it. > > My intuition, as well as what I've been able to discern so far, is that it's > just a stage (albeit an important one) and not something to become attached > to. > If JMJM has some advice it would be received warmly. > > Mike > > Hi Mike. I have Tantric fiends who are really into this stuff. As you > doubtless know, this is the focus of Tantra, both Buddhist and Hindu. I am > not surprised that there are physical correspondances to mental states as > everything is entangled. The question is whether these phenomena are to be > regarded as diagnostic markers, as distractions, or as something that should > be deliberately cultivated. I have read that kundalini can be quite dangerous to one's mental, emotional and physical health if the process is unsupervised by an experienced guide. In Japan, as you know, Tantric Buddhism is called Shingon. Maybe you can find some Shingon teacher who speaks enough English to help. Steve > > > > >
