Anthony, "Colorful" is a good choice of word!
Mike ________________________________ From: Anthony Wu <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, 13 April, 2011 8:49:26 Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Does Zen contain spirituality? Mike/Steve, Though I have had no experiences about chi, chakra etc, I watch your stories with interest. >From the little I know, Shingon in Japan is also termed 'Eastern Tantra', >while those schools in Tibet, which are much more colorful belong to 'Western Tantra'. They are different. In what way, you have to find it yourself. Anthony --- On Wed, 13/4/11, mike brown <[email protected]> wrote: >From: mike brown <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Does Zen contain spirituality? >To: [email protected] >Date: Wednesday, 13 April, 2011, 7:42 AM > > > >Steve, > >Yes, I tend to think of this more as a diagnostic marker than anything else. >That's a good idea about Shingon, but the irony is that I'd probably be better >off in the UK or Australia to learn about it (due to the language barrier). Ah >well, 'move on Bikkhus', as the Buddha would say. > >Mike > > > > > > ________________________________ From: SteveW <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Wed, 13 April, 2011 8:23:40 >Subject: [Zen] Re: Does Zen contain spirituality? > > > > >--- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusuboyo@...> wrote: >> >> Steve, >> >> Unfortunately, I'm in Japan and the teacher didn't speak English. I'm just >> looking now at a few Vipassana sites that seem to be explaining the process >> quite well. After 10 years of Zen, all this "energy centres" stuff is quite >> an > >> adventure! Kinda like being in a 'psychic fairground' as one person put it. >> >> My intuition, as well as what I've been able to discern so far, is that it's >> just a stage (albeit an important one) and not something to become attached >> to. >> >> If JMJM has some advice it would be received warmly. >> >> Mike >> >> Hi Mike. I have Tantric fiends who are really into this stuff. As you >>doubtless know, this is the focus of Tantra, both Buddhist and Hindu. I am >>not >>surprised that there are physical correspondances to mental states as >>everything >>is entangled. The question is whether these phenomena are to be regarded as >>diagnostic markers, as distractions, or as something that should be >>deliberately >>cultivated. >I have read that kundalini can be quite dangerous to one's mental, emotional >and >physical health if the process is unsupervised by an experienced guide. In >Japan, as you know, Tantric Buddhism is called Shingon. Maybe you can find >some >Shingon teacher who speaks enough English to help. >Steve >> >> >> >> >> > >
