Peace

And by what authority do you, Ed, and Anthony judge Mr Suzuki's writings.  Are 
the writings here considerably more authentic?

Best wishes

Zendervish



--- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@...> wrote:
>
> ED,
> 
> DT Suzuki certainly is expressing below the results of a lot of discursive 
> thinking.
> 
> I don't agree with all of the details of his quote below, but I do agree with 
> his central point - zen is the foundation of all.
> 
> I consider DT Suzuki primarily a Buddhist scholar.  Although he did study Zen 
> Buddhism he never received 'inca' (permission to teach) as a dharma successor 
> of any Zen master - that I know of.  His books do address Buddhism and Zen 
> Buddhism from a intellectual, scholarly perspective so this quote doesn't 
> surprise me.
> 
> He is not someone that I would look to or recommend as a great communicator 
> of zen.  Buddhsim and maybe Zen Buddhism - yes; but just plain old zen - no.
> 
> ...Bill!
> 
> --- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi zendervish, Bill and All,
> > 
> > DT Suzuki appears to be indulging in a lot of un-zenlike discursive
> > thinking, no?
> > 
> > --ED
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "salik888" <novelidea8@> wrote:
> > >
> > Greetings
> > 
> > This little tidbit of Buddhist Modernism throws a loop around the
> > experience of
> > the integral source that Sufism likewise expresses.
> > 
> > Zen is the ultimate fact of all philosophy and religion. Every
> > intellectual
> > effort must culminate in it, or rather must start from it, if it is to
> > bear any
> > practical fruits. Every religious faith must spring from it if it has to
> > prove
> > at all efficiently and livingly workable in our active life. Therefore
> > Zen is
> > not necessarily the fountain of Buddhist thought and life alone; it is
> > very much
> > alive also in Christianity, Mohammedanism, in Taoism, and even
> > positivistic
> > Confucianism. What makes all these religions and philosophies vital and
> > inspiring, keeping up their usefulness and efficiency, is due to the
> > presence in
> > them of what I may designate as the Zen element.
> > 
> > DT Suzuki
> > 
> > zendervish
> >
>




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