Bill,

English being my second language, sometimes I'm not aware of connotation 
implied in the words. It reminds me of once when I said, "I believe we all get 
what we deserve". To me, it simply means we reap what we sow, be it good or 
bad. But I was corrected because 'deserve' implies punishment, of which I 
wasn't aware.

This is a good reminder. Thank you.

Siska
-----Original Message-----
From: "Bill!" <[email protected]>
Sender: [email protected]
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 08:16:51 
To: <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
Subject: [Zen] Fwd: Re: [Zen Living] Supreme Vehicle

Anthony, Mike and Siska,

Well you all used or continued to repeat the word 'condemn' which implies it's 
a bad thing.  You didn't say your were 'rewarded' with the life of a fox...

But I of all people know how tricky the English language can be when talking 
about these types of things, so I'll take your word for it.

...Bill! 

--- In [email protected], siska_cen@... wrote:
>
> Bill, I never said it is a bad (or good) thing. I don't think Mike did either 
> ;-)
> 
> Siska
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Bill!" <BillSmart@...>
> Sender: [email protected]
> Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 04:22:41 
> To: <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Zen] Fwd: Re: [Zen Living] Supreme Vehicle
> 
> ...and what's so bad about living as a fox for 500 years?
> 
> ...Bill!
> 
> --- In [email protected], siska_cen@ wrote:
> >
> > Hi Mike,
> > 
> > Ah, got your point.
> > 
> > > there is no self, yet..
> > There is no self, no yet ;-)
> > 
> > Siska
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mike brown <uerusuboyo@>
> > Sender: [email protected]
> > Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 07:28:05 
> > To: [email protected]<[email protected]>
> > Reply-To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Zen] Fwd: Re: [Zen Living] Supreme Vehicle
> > 
> > Hi Siska,
> >  
> > Oh, I see. I thought you were asking if saying, "There is and isn't a 
> > diifference" condemns you to 500 years as a fox. Really, it's just a 
> > question of neither being absolute nor subjective. For example, there is no 
> > self, yet...
> >  
> > Mike
> > 
> > From: "siska_cen@" <siska_cen@>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 6 September 2011, 11:28
> > Subject: Re: [Zen] Fwd: Re: [Zen Living] Supreme Vehicle
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > Hi Mike,
> > 
> > Don't really get it, if what were true?
> > 
> > Siska
> > From: mike brown <uerusuboyo@> 
> > Sender: [email protected] 
> > Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 03:17:07 +0100 (BST)
> > To: [email protected]<[email protected]>
> > ReplyTo: [email protected] 
> > Subject: Re: [Zen] Fwd: Re: [Zen Living] Supreme Vehicle
> >   
> > Hi Siska,
> >  
> > If that were true, then what wouldn't condemn you to 500 years as a fox?
> >  
> > Mike
> > 
> > From: "siska_cen@" <siska_cen@>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Monday, 5 September 2011, 18:48
> > Subject: Re: [Zen] Fwd: Re: [Zen Living] Supreme Vehicle
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > Hi Mike,
> > 
> > > In other words, there is and there isn't a difference.
> > 
> > I like this.
> > 
> > Would statements implying there is or isn't a difference condemn you to 500 
> > years as a fox too? :-)
> > 
> > Siska
> > From: mike brown <uerusuboyo@> 
> > Sender: [email protected] 
> > Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 11:17:44 +0100 (BST)
> > To: [email protected]<[email protected]>
> > ReplyTo: [email protected] 
> > Subject: Re: [Zen] Fwd: Re: [Zen Living] Supreme Vehicle
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > >In truth, Two and One are in support of one another.
> > 
> > >>Here it seems that Rev Harvey makes distinction between Two and One. Are 
> > >>they really different at all?
> > 
> > Siska,
> > 
> > Just as Bill! is condemed to live 500 years as a fox for saying that an 
> > enlightened person isn't subject to karma (just as he would be if he 
> > said that an enlightened person is subject to karma), so with this 
> > question. There is no yes or no. In other words, there is and there isn't a 
> > difference.
> > 
> > Mike  
> >
>



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