Anthony, The signposts you see on a journey are not the ultimate goal, but are nevertheless useful for giving you an indication of where you are and at what stage of the journey you're at. Of course, the sage arrives without travelling (Lao Tzu), but for us lesser mortals..
If tantra and Zen are at opposites, then didn't Buddha teach the Middle Way? Mike ________________________________ From: Anthony Wu <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, 15 October 2011, 12:59 Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Buddha Heart Imprint II Mike, If you don't propose striving towards those 'signposts', you regard them as unimportant. I don't see what otherwise you think. Tantra manipulates those 'lights' (especially in the body) to the extremes and develops their peculiar systems. Zen is the opposite. Theravada may be in between, but I am not sure. Anthony From: mike brown <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, 15 October 2011 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Buddha Heart Imprint II Bill!, As you say, it was someone else who told you to ignore your experience in the zendo. Did that person himself experiece such 'phenonema' or were they also just repeating what they had been told? If you've ever experienced kensho (and I'm sure you have), then you'd know that this also affects the body/mind in a way that is not the same as 'just sitting' in our usual day-to-day practice. Yet kensho is not dismissed in the same way. Personally, I feel that such phenonema are indications that the illusionary obstacles we have developed in life are losing their grip on us and the purity of the Mind (our true state) is shining thru. As such, they are important signposts on the path and although it misses the point to strive towards them (maybe this is what your priest was wary of), it also misses the mark to say they are unimportant. Mike From: Bill! <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, 15 October 2011, 10:19 Subject: [Zen] Re: Buddha Heart Imprint II JMJM, When I was beginning my zen training and sitting shikantaza (clear mind) I 'witnessed' several color phenomenom. A bright white light which seem to emanate from the people sitting around me and surround them like an aura, and a golden light which enveloped me as if I were surrounded by and suspended in honey. In both cases my teacher at the time told me these were just 'maya' and unimportant, and told me to pay no attention to them, let them slide away and 'just sit'. ...Bill! --- In [email protected], Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 <chan.jmjm@...> wrote: > > Good morning to All, > > Perhaps if you would, please allow me to share with you some of the > labels used by my Teacher to interpret the witness of Juemiao Miaoming, > recipient of Buddha Heart Imprint. > > The lineage of Chan is passed on two routes, the form and the formless. > One without the other, is incomplete. Let me explain some of the details. > > The lineage of Chan is passed through and in sync both in archived > lineage chart(form) as well as the Buddha Heart Imprint(formless). > > As we know the conversion to Chan is to convert to Buddha, Dharma, > Sangha (form) and the Trikaya (formless). Buddha is the Nirmanakaya. > Dharma is the Sambhogakaya and Shangha is the Nirmanakaya. > > Juemiao Miaoming's witness of the three color lights, as taught by my > Teacher, are -- Gold is the Nirmanakaya, Red is the Nirmanakaya. Green > is the Sambhogakaya. These are also the logo of our lineage. > > Juemiao Miaoming's witness of the intense white light in the Heart > Chakra is the Kensho, which does not fade away. Which I have mentioned > off and on throughout the years that I am on this forum. > > Juemiao Miaoming's witness of thousands of lights is what Buddha > witnessed under the Bodhi tree before his enlightenment. As stated in > our Master's Diamond Sutra DVD, these lights are not in the night sky, > but inside our body. > > Juemiao Miaoming's heart felt connection of compassion and truth upon > recipient of this transmission is what it is. > > I am grateful to have participated in witnessing this event and > communicating to everyone. > > In short, a true transmission of Buddha Heart Imprint, from a > non-English speaking master to a non-Chinese speaking desciple requires > no word and only requires a single meeting of hearts. > > As Juemiao Miaoming said, "this is an auspicious day." > > Thank you for your attention. > > BTW, if you would like to talk to Miaoming privately, he will be most > delighted. Contact me and I will forward his private email. > > -- > To be enlightened in this life... > http://www.heartchan.org > To save our world... > http://www.universal-oneness.org >
