Chris, > : )
>Whatever. Indeed ; ) Mike. ________________________________ From: ChrisAustinLane <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, 17 October 2011, 9:58 Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Buddha Heart Imprint II Thanks, Chris Austin-Lane Sent from a cell phone On Oct 16, 2011, at 17:38, mike brown <[email protected]> wrote: Chris, > > >I thought the line, 'Of course, the sage arrives without travelling' said the >same thing. My point is that there are indications on the path (Ok ok, the >pathless path) of where you're 'at' and Zen *does* acknowledge them. Again, >talking in ultimates is what causes you to become a fox for 500 lives. : ) What ever. > >Mike > > > >________________________________ >From: ChrisAustinLane <[email protected]> >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, 17 October 2011, 6:25 >Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Buddha Heart Imprint II > > > > > >Thanks, >Chris Austin-Lane >Sent from a cell phone > >On Oct 14, 2011, at 21:43, mike brown <[email protected]> wrote: > > >Anthony, >> >> >>The signposts you see on a journey are not the ultimate goal, but are >>nevertheless useful for giving you an indication of where you are and at what >>stage of the journey you're at. Of course, the sage arrives without >>travelling (Lao Tzu), but for us lesser mortals.. > > >There is no where to go! Forget about stages and such. > >If tantra and Zen are at opposites, then didn't Buddha teach the Middle Way? >> >> >>Mike >> >> >> >>________________________________ >>From: Anthony Wu <[email protected]> >>To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>Sent: Saturday, 15 October 2011, 12:59 >>Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Buddha Heart Imprint II >> >> >> >>Mike, >> >>If you don't propose striving towards those 'signposts', you regard them as >>unimportant. I don't see what otherwise you think. >> >>Tantra manipulates those 'lights' (especially in the body) to the extremes >>and develops their peculiar systems. Zen is the opposite. Theravada may be in >>between, but I am not sure. >> >>Anthony >> >> >>From: mike brown <[email protected]> >>To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>Sent: Saturday, 15 October 2011 9:54 AM >>Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Buddha Heart Imprint II >> >> >> >>Bill!, >> >> >>As you say, it was someone else who told you to ignore your experience in the >>zendo. Did that person himself experiece such 'phenonema' or were they also >>just repeating what they had been told? If you've ever experienced kensho >>(and I'm sure you have), then you'd know that this also affects the body/mind >>in a way that is not the same as 'just sitting' in our usual day-to-day >>practice. Yet kensho is not dismissed in the same way. Personally, I feel >>that such phenonema are indications that the illusionary obstacles we have >>developed in life are losing their grip on us and the purity of the Mind (our >>true state) is shining thru. As such, they are important signposts on the >>path and although it misses the point to strive towards them (maybe this is >>what your priest was wary of), it also misses the mark to say they are >>unimportant. >> >> >>Mike >> >> >>From: Bill! <[email protected]> >>To: [email protected] >>Sent: Saturday, 15 October 2011, 10:19 >>Subject: [Zen] Re: Buddha Heart Imprint II >> >> >> >>JMJM, >> >>When I was beginning my zen training and sitting shikantaza (clear mind) I >>'witnessed' several color phenomenom. A bright white light which seem to >>emanate from the people sitting around me and surround them like an aura, and >>a golden light which enveloped me as if I were surrounded by and suspended in >>honey. >> >>In both cases my teacher at the time told me these were just 'maya' and >>unimportant, and told me to pay no attention to them, let them slide away and >>'just sit'. >> >>...Bill! >> >>--- In [email protected], Jue Miao Jing Ming - 覺妙精明 >><chan.jmjm@...> wrote: >>> >>> Good morning to All, >>> >>> Perhaps if you would, please allow me to share with you some of the >>> labels used by my Teacher to interpret the witness of Juemiao Miaoming, >>> recipient of Buddha Heart Imprint. >>> >>> The lineage of Chan is passed on two routes, the form and the formless. >>> One without the other, is incomplete. Let me explain some of the details. >>> >>> The lineage of Chan is passed through and in sync both in archived >>> lineage chart(form) as well as the Buddha Heart Imprint(formless). >>> >>> As we know the conversion to Chan is to convert to Buddha, Dharma, >>> Sangha (form) and the Trikaya (formless). Buddha is the Nirmanakaya. >>> Dharma is the Sambhogakaya and Shangha is the Nirmanakaya. >>> >>> Juemiao Miaoming's witness of the three color lights, as taught by my >>> Teacher, are -- Gold is the Nirmanakaya, Red is the Nirmanakaya. Green >>> is the Sambhogakaya. These are also the logo of our lineage. >>> >>> Juemiao Miaoming's witness of the intense white light in the Heart >>> Chakra is the Kensho, which does not fade away. Which I have mentioned >>> off and on throughout the years that I am on this forum. >>> >>> Juemiao Miaoming's witness of thousands of lights is what Buddha >>> witnessed under the Bodhi tree before his enlightenment. As stated in >>> our Master's Diamond Sutra DVD, these lights are not in the night sky, >>> but inside our body. >>> >>> Juemiao Miaoming's heart felt connection of compassion and truth upon >>> recipient of this transmission is what it is. >>> >>> I am grateful to have participated in witnessing this event and >>> communicating to everyone. >>> >>> In short, a true transmission of Buddha Heart Imprint, from a >>> non-English speaking master to a non-Chinese speaking desciple requires >>> no word and only requires a single meeting of hearts. >>> >>> As Juemiao Miaoming said, "this is an auspicious day." >>> >>> Thank you for your attention. >>> >>> BTW, if you would like to talk to Miaoming privately, he will be most >>> delighted. Contact me and I will forward his private email. >>> >>> -- >>> To be enlightened in this life... >>> http://www.heartchan.org >>> To save our world... >>> http://www.universal-oneness.org >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
