Food for thought.
 
Anthony

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From: Bill! <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2011, 16:10
Subject: [Zen] Re: Zen and Buddhism


  
Anthony,

The universe doesn't containt good and bad things. You, your self, your 
discriminating mind is what assigns the judgements of good and bad to things 
and events.

When I was getting a beating I might feel like fighting back to protect myself, 
and even after the beating I might decide to take some kind of action against 
the perpetrator to try to prevent another beating, mine or someone else's. I 
don't think I would do this out of revenge, but I might. I hope I wouldn't.

...Bill!

--- In [email protected], Anthony Wu <wuasg@...> wrote:
>
> Bill,
>  
> Whether the one who beats you is big or small, you may say, like some zen 
> masters do, you accept it as part of the universe that contains good and bad 
> things. But deep in the heart, so you feel like gettting revenged?
>  
> Anthony
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Bill! <BillSmart@...>
> To: [email protected] 
> Sent: Monday, 28 November 2011, 8:13
> Subject: [Zen] Re: Zen and Buddhism
> 
> 
>   
> Anthony,
> 
> I haven't been beaten for a long time, but I remember feeling stiff and sore. 
> What difference does it make if the one who beat me was bigger than me?
> 
> ...Bill!
> 
> --- In [email protected], Anthony Wu <wuasg@> wrote:
> >
> > Bill,
> >  
> > How do you feel when you get beaten plus insulted by a big guy almost twice 
> > your size?
> >  
> > Anthony
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > From: Bill! <BillSmart@>
> > To: [email protected] 
> > Sent: Sunday, 27 November 2011, 18:14
> > Subject: [Zen] Re: Zen and Buddhism
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > Anthony,
> > 
> > Why do we need to 'get even'? And what does that even mean?
> > 
> > ...Bill!
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], Anthony Wu <wuasg@> wrote:
> > >
> > > ED,
> > >  
> > > I pick '1', except that 'viewing as...existences' should read 'which 
> > > decides their fate in the present and future existences'.
> > >  
> > > That will cover punishment by law of a criminal in the present life.
> > >  
> > > Why does law have anything to do with karma? Because if the karma is not 
> > > ripe, the bad guy just gets away with any felony and enjoys his trophy. 
> > > That is why we need a future existence to get even.
> > >  
> > > Anthony
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: ED <seacrofter001@>
> > > To: [email protected] 
> > > Sent: Sunday, 27 November 2011, 2:13
> > > Subject: [Zen] Re: Zen and Buddhism
> > > 
> > >   
> > >  
> > > Take you pick, or create your own definition of 'karma', but preferably 
> > > state what it is so that we may correctly understand your 
> > > POV.    --ED
> > > 
> > > Dictionary
> > > kar·ma
> > > nounÃÆ'¢â‚¬Æ'/ÃÆ'‹Ë†kÃÆ'¤rmÃÆ'‰â„¢/ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Æ'
> > > 
> > > * (in Hinduism and Buddhism) The sum of a person's actions in this and 
> > > previous states of existence, viewed as deciding their fate in future 
> > > existences 
> > > * Destiny or fate, following as effect from cause 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ________________________________
> > > 
> > > Web definitions
> > >  
> > > * (Hinduism and Buddhism) the effects of a person's actions that 
> > > determine his destiny in his next incarnation
> > > wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
> > > 
> > > * 
> > > * Karma 
> > > (ÃÆ' Â¤â€¢ÃÆ' Â¤Â°ÃÆ' Â¥ï¿½ÃÆ' Â¤Â®
> > >  ; kamma) in Indian religions is the concept of "action" or "deed", 
> > > understood as that which causes the entire cycle of cause and effect 
> > > (i.e., the cycle called saÃÆ'¡Â¹Æ'sÃÆ'¢ra) originating 
> > > in ancient India and treated in Hindu, Jain, Buddhist and Sikh 
> > > philosophies.
> > > en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma
> > > 
> > > * 
> > > 
> > > * (Karmic) law. This is a cycle which the New Age movement claims alters 
> > > your next life. Karmic law means: If you do good in this life, you will 
> > > be elevated in your next life. If you are bad in this life, you will 
> > > descend in your next life. Christians do not believe in reincarnation. ...
> > > www.fillthevoid.org/NewAge/glossary.html
> > > 
> > > * 
> > > * Eastern name for the Law of Cause and Effect. The basic Law governing 
> > > our existence in this solar system. Every thought, every action that we 
> > > have and make sets into motion a cause. These causes have their effects, 
> > > which make our lives, for good or ill. ...
> > > www.share-international.org/background/glossary/g_main.htm
> > >  
> > > * The law of cause and effect. 'Whatsoever a man soeth, that shall he 
> > > also reap' (Gal. 6:7).
> > > www.motherandlanello.com/glossary.php
> > >  
> > >  
> > > 
> > > * Cause and Effect. From an absolute standpoint, karma is the 
> > > circumstance of the moment. Relatively, it is the endless chain of cause 
> > > and effect that defines the future events of an individuals life.
> > > www.maximumbliss.com/zen dictionary.asp
> > >  
> > >  
> > > 
> > > * The explanation of Karma varies slightly per tradition or philosophy, 
> > > but the basic principle remains the same: "You reap what you sow" 
> > > … "what goes around, comes around" … or (if 
> > > you prefer) "an eye for an eye. ...
> > > blog.californiapsychics.com/blog/2009/04/psychic-dictionary.ht…
> > > 
> > > * 
> > > * 
> > > * A belief that all beings of lifeÃÆ'¶gods includedÃÆ'¶are 
> > > subject to the same hopeless cycle of pain, suffering, and rebirth.
> > > academics.triton.edu/faculty/mbotterweck/glossary.html
> > > 
> > > * 
> > > * 
> > > * action; the act of doing
> > > www.healthandyoga.com/yogaglossary.html
> > > 
> > > * 
> > > * 
> > > * Literally action; includes the law of cause and effect, the consequence 
> > > of an action, performing positive actions results in positive results.
> > > www.yogaweb.com/yoga/essentials/dictionary.asp
> > > 
> > > * 
> > > 
> > > * 
> > > * is a Sanskrit word whose literal meaning is 'action'. It refers to the 
> > > law that every action has an equal reaction either immediately or at some 
> > > point in the future. ...
> > > www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/hinduism/concepts/concepts_1…
> > > 
> > > * 
> > > 
> > > * Volition, volitional or intentional activity. Karma is always followed 
> > > by its fruit, Vipaka. Karma and Vipaka are oftentimes referred to as the 
> > > law of causality, a cardinal concern in the Teaching of the Buddha.
> > > www.sinc.sunysb.edu/Clubs/buddhism/glossary.html
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > * The reward or punishment of any action of man is given by Gods order 
> > > according to merit, God may give it or withhold it.
> > > www.sikhs.org/gloss2.htm
> > > 
> > > * 
> > > * coming most primordially from the hypothesized Indo-European root 
> > > *k(w)er, and later from the Sanskrit verbal root 
> > > kÃÆ'¡Â¹â€º, means, simply, 'to do'. 
> > > Monier-Williams gives 'act, action, performance, business' as its primary 
> > > definitions, and, secondarily, 'office, scpecial duty, occupation, 
> > > obligation'. ...
> > > www.jehsmith.com/1/2010/10/the-fossils-of-concepts-1.html
> > >  
> > >  
> > > 
> > > * The Sanskrit term meaning "action." It refers to a concept in which the 
> > > results of one's actions accumulate over one's life. Upon death, an 
> > > individual's karma-this store of the results of actions-determines 
> > > whether one is reborn in a higher or lower status.
> > > uwacadweb.uwyo.edu/religionet/er/hinduism/hglossry.htm
> > > 
> > > * 
> > > * 
> > > * A term from Hinduism and Bhuddism for the idea that what goes around 
> > > comes around. This suggest fate not only within one's life but also in 
> > > one's reincarnation.
> > > library.thinkquest.org/16665/glossary.htm
> > > 
> > >  
> > >
> >
>


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