Gotta tell ya, the karmic hindrances clause really reads like it was added by 
the committee for doctrinal preservation and student motivation. 

Every thing, just as it is, is fine. 

Seems you are also in danger of rebirth as a fox. 

Thanks,
Chris Austin-Lane
Sent from a cell phone

On Dec 5, 2011, at 7:48, Chan JMJM <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> 
> Indeed Chris, Buddha agrees with you, "every sentient being could be 
> enlightened, once they rid of their karmic hindrances."  JM
> 
> On 12/5/2011 7:01 AM, ChrisAustinLane wrote:
>> 
>> Hit send too soon. 
>> 
>> ----
>> As a time of sitting with absolutely still mind but a restless body. 
>> 
>> I find the hybrid word body/mind to be useful. You can't experience a 
>> re-union of body and mind - only know the union. 
>> 
>> I just don't want readers to think that zen will change them so they have a 
>> unified body and mind - that is already there. 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Chris Austin-Lane
>> Sent from a cell phone
>> 
>> On Dec 5, 2011, at 6:57, ChrisAustinLane <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Let me re-phrase - in all places and times, our body mind and spirit are 
>>> one. 
>>> 
>>> The contents of whatever thoughts we have may or may not reflect that 
>>> unity, but they are just thoughts anyways. 
>>> 
>>> For example, one may notice that a particular time of sitting will seem 
>>> like you mind was totally absent,being totally distracted. You might think 
>>> one might as well not sat at all. But since it is not your body sitting, 
>>> not your mind sitting, you notice that in fact it has tweaked your 
>>> perspective just as much as 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Chris Austin-Lane
>>> Sent from a cell phone
>>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2011, at 17:43, Chan JMJM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>> 
>>>> Not sure that I fully understand your question.  Perhaps I should detail a 
>>>> little more about "in the zone".
>>>> 
>>>> It is a state without thinking and everything we do is spontaneous, 
>>>> natural and effortless, while often times in our everyday life, our body, 
>>>> mind and spirit operating in a loosely connected way.  While in the zone, 
>>>> they are one without separation or distinction.
>>>> 
>>>> This is not a mental state, it is a state of being integrating body, mind 
>>>> and spirit.  Or in Buddhist terms, surpassing the Realms of Desire, Form 
>>>> and Formlessness.  Or in other words, surpassing the hindrance of 
>>>> physical, mental and spiritual karma.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you for the opportunity to share.
>>>> JM
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 12/4/2011 3:35 PM, Chris Austin-Lane wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Chan JMJM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> In other words, in such a state, our body, mind and spirit are one.  In 
>>>>> modern language, we are "in the zone".  We are in a state of most 
>>>>> natural, effortless and automatic state of being.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Are you saying there is some state when body mind and spirit are not one? 
>>>>>  Or are you talking about something other than reality, but the contents 
>>>>> of our mental beliefs, which do not always hold dualistic beliefs.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> --Chris
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>> +1-301-270-6524
> 
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