At one Zendo I was sitting at there was a clear S&M situation going on between 
the young novice male whacker and a cute female sitter. I never heard such deep 
breathing and muffled moans from any other whacker and sitter or so many 
multiple whacks to the same naughty sitter!
:-)

Edgar



On Dec 5, 2011, at 5:39 PM, ChrisAustinLane wrote:

> 
> As a beginner, I can only help my fellow  students avoid the whack from the 
> senior students. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Chris Austin-Lane
> Sent from a cell phone
> 
> On Dec 5, 2011, at 12:59, Anthony Wu <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Chris,
>>  
>> You keep encouraging rebirth as a fox. Don't forget the final authorty of 
>> that is Bill, assisted strongly by me.
>>  
>> Fox Lietenant
>> 
>> From: ChrisAustinLane <[email protected]>
>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, 6 December 2011, 0:56
>> Subject: Re: [Zen] Practice Of No Mind
>> 
>>  
>> Gotta tell ya, the karmic hindrances clause really reads like it was added 
>> by the committee for doctrinal preservation and student motivation. 
>> 
>> Every thing, just as it is, is fine. 
>> 
>> Seems you are also in danger of rebirth as a fox. 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Chris Austin-Lane
>> Sent from a cell phone
>> 
>> On Dec 5, 2011, at 7:48, Chan JMJM <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Indeed Chris, Buddha agrees with you, "every sentient being could be 
>>> enlightened, once they rid of their karmic hindrances."  JM
>>> 
>>> On 12/5/2011 7:01 AM, ChrisAustinLane wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> Hit send too soon. 
>>>> 
>>>> ----
>>>> As a time of sitting with absolutely still mind but a restless body. 
>>>> 
>>>> I find the hybrid word body/mind to be useful. You can't experience a 
>>>> re-union of body and mind - only know the union. 
>>>> 
>>>> I just don't want readers to think that zen will change them so they have 
>>>> a unified body and mind - that is already there. 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Chris Austin-Lane
>>>> Sent from a cell phone
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 5, 2011, at 6:57, ChrisAustinLane <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Let me re-phrase - in all places and times, our body mind and spirit are 
>>>>> one. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The contents of whatever thoughts we have may or may not reflect that 
>>>>> unity, but they are just thoughts anyways. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> For example, one may notice that a particular time of sitting will seem 
>>>>> like you mind was totally absent,being totally distracted. You might 
>>>>> think one might as well not sat at all. But since it is not your body 
>>>>> sitting, not your mind sitting, you notice that in fact it has tweaked 
>>>>> your perspective just as much as 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Chris Austin-Lane
>>>>> Sent from a cell phone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 4, 2011, at 17:43, Chan JMJM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Not sure that I fully understand your question.  Perhaps I should detail 
>>>>>> a little more about "in the zone".
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It is a state without thinking and everything we do is spontaneous, 
>>>>>> natural and effortless, while often times in our everyday life, our 
>>>>>> body, mind and spirit operating in a loosely connected way.  While in 
>>>>>> the zone, they are one without separation or distinction.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is not a mental state, it is a state of being integrating body, 
>>>>>> mind and spirit.  Or in Buddhist terms, surpassing the Realms of Desire, 
>>>>>> Form and Formlessness.  Or in other words, surpassing the hindrance of 
>>>>>> physical, mental and spiritual karma.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thank you for the opportunity to share.
>>>>>> JM
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 12/4/2011 3:35 PM, Chris Austin-Lane wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Chan JMJM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> In other words, in such a state, our body, mind and spirit are one.  In 
>>>>>>> modern language, we are "in the zone".  We are in a state of most 
>>>>>>> natural, effortless and automatic state of being.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Are you saying there is some state when body mind and spirit are not 
>>>>>>> one?  Or are you talking about something other than reality, but the 
>>>>>>> contents of our mental beliefs, which do not always hold dualistic 
>>>>>>> beliefs.  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --Chris
>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>> +1-301-270-6524
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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