JM, Try manipulating your karma, and you will get whacked by Buddha, dharma, ego, morality and everything else. Anthony
________________________________ From: Chan JMJM <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, 6 December 2011, 8:10 Subject: Re: [Zen] Practice Of No Mind Hello Anthony, Long time no chat. Thank you for partially agreement. In the particular statement below, Buddha actually said, "...once rid off attachment to ego and dharma." My personal witness -- these attachments are caused by karma. Karma as a nickname for "cause", different from your moral based definition from previous discussions. Since karma is nothing but a form of energy, anyone with enough power can manipulate it. No? :-) Don't worry about what I say too much. You can witness too. We all can. jm On 12/5/2011 12:50 PM, Anthony Wu wrote: >JM, > >You said, 'Buddha agrees with you, "every sentient being could be enlightened, >once they rid of their karmic hindrances." > >I am interested to know when and where Buddha said that. > >I believe Buddha did say everybody could be enlightened. But the term 'karmic >hindrances' is usually used by 'later day mahayana saints'. Buddha insists >that your karma cannot be rid of, but can be got around by positive karmic >effects. Let alone your hope that karma can be manipulated by a third party. > >Anthony > > >From: Chan JMJM <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Cc: ChrisAustinLane <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, 5 December 2011, 23:48 >Subject: Re: [Zen] Practice Of No Mind > > > >Indeed Chris, Buddha agrees with you, "every sentient being could be >enlightened, once they rid of their karmic hindrances." JM > >On 12/5/2011 7:01 AM, ChrisAustinLane wrote: > >>Hit send too soon. >> >> >>---- >>As a time of sitting with absolutely still mind but a restless body. >> >> >>I find the hybrid word body/mind to be useful. You can't experience a >>re-union of body and mind - only know the union. >> >> >>I just don't want readers to think that zen will change them so they have a >>unified body and mind - that is already there. >> >>Thanks, >>Chris Austin-Lane >>Sent from a cell phone >> >>On Dec 5, 2011, at 6:57, ChrisAustinLane <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>Let me re-phrase - in all places and times, our body mind and spirit are one. >>> >>> >>>The contents of whatever thoughts we have may or may not reflect that unity, >>>but they are just thoughts anyways. >>> >>> >>>For example, one may notice that a particular time of sitting will seem like >>>you mind was totally absent,being totally distracted. You might think one >>>might as well not sat at all. But since it is not your body sitting, not >>>your mind sitting, you notice that in fact it has tweaked your perspective >>>just as much as >>> >>>Thanks, >>>Chris Austin-Lane >>>Sent from a cell phone >>> >>>On Dec 4, 2011, at 17:43, Chan JMJM <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>>Hi Chris, >>>> >>>>Not sure that I fully understand your question. Perhaps I should detail a >>>>little more about "in the zone". >>>> >>>>It is a state without thinking and everything we do is spontaneous, natural >>>>and effortless, while often times in our everyday life, our body, mind and >>>>spirit operating in a loosely connected way. While in the zone, they are >>>>one without separation or distinction. >>>> >>>>This is not a mental state, it is a state of being integrating body, mind >>>>and spirit. Or in Buddhist terms, surpassing the Realms of Desire, Form >>>>and Formlessness. Or in other words, surpassing the hindrance of physical, >>>>mental and spiritual karma. >>>> >>>>Thank you for the opportunity to share. >>>>JM >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>On 12/4/2011 3:35 PM, Chris Austin-Lane wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Chan JMJM <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>In other words, in such a state, our body, mind and spirit are one. In >>>>>modern language, we are "in the zone". We are in a state of most natural, >>>>>effortless and automatic state of being. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Are you saying there is some state when body mind and spirit are not one? >>>>>Or are you talking about something other than reality, but the contents of >>>>>our mental beliefs, which do not always hold dualistic beliefs. >>>>> >>>>>Thanks, >>>>> >>>>>--Chris >>>>>[email protected] >>>>>+1-301-270-6524 >>>>> > >
