JMJM, The word 'chi' in Thai means 'to urinate' or could just mean 'urine'.
...Bill! --- In [email protected], Anthony Wu <wuasg@...> wrote: > > JM, >  > Chinamen in Thailand say the girls at Patpong are full of chi. >  > anthony > > > ________________________________ > From: 覺å¦ç²¾æ <chan.jmjm@...> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, 14 January 2012, 10:29 > Subject: Re: [Zen] New to Group > > >  > Hi Bill, Chi means energy in general, or life force. That's all chi > means. In the Chinese culture, Fengshui, acupuncture, Taichi, etc. are all > based on chi. Perhaps ask some China men in Thailand may give you more > detailed examples. In short, most China may tell you that, without chi, the > world is dead.  jm > > On 1/13/2012 6:16 PM, Bill! wrote: >  > >JMJM, > > > >As always, thanks for your contribution. > > > >How does "Buddha in the general term is the "universal life force and > >wisdom"" differ from your concept of 'chi' - or are the two just different > >terms for the same thing? > > > >Thanks...Bill! > > > >--- In [email protected], 覺å¦â¢Ã§Â²Â¾Ã¦ËŽ <chan.jmjm@> > >wrote: > >> > >> Hi Bill & Mel and All, > >> > >> All the interpretation so far are close. Let me say a bit more. > >> > >> Buddha in the general term is the "universal life force and wisdom". > >> When someone is "in sync" to it, this person is honored with the title > >> of Buddha, such as Guatama Buddha, Guanyin Buddha, etc. > >> > >> Because it is the "universal life force and wisdom", it is everywhere > >> and in everything, because it manifested all. > >> > >> And this universal life force and wisdom possess certain > >> characteristics. Or in ordinary language, it functions by following a > >> certain set of laws. This set of principles is also called the Laws of > >> Nature, the Nature of the Universe, or Buddha Nature, or Self Nature. > >> Everything in the universe functions according to this set of > >> principles. My teacher has identify seven of them. If you are > >> interested, I can share with you. > >> > >> Therefore, meditate to enhance our chi is critical to be in sync with > >> the universal life force and wisdom. Like a radio receiver, it requires > >> power to be sensitive. As our energy enhances, then we can witness > >> spiritual healing, karma transfer, the TriKaya, etc., phenomena in the > >> spiritual domain. Then we could intuitively witness our own Buddha > >> Nature and its manifestation in everyday life, without having to rely on > >> external teachings through unreliable words. > >> > >> Yes, we are able to "just get it" within ourselves. > >> JM > >> > >> > >> > >> On 1/13/2012 2:02 AM, Bill! wrote: > >> > > >> > Mel, > >> > > >> > Thanks for your reply. You said a lot and I don't want to comment on > >> > every little thing, but one thing you talked about is worth a few words: > >> > > >> > The word/name 'Buddha' is confusing to many because it is both the > >> > name (title actually) given to Guatama Siddartha after he became > >> > enlightened - or so the story goes. I think 'Buddha' is a title that > >> > means 'one who has awakened'. This historical person is called > >> > 'Buddha' or 'the Buddha' by many, but he was not the first or > >> > certainly only Buddha. > >> > > >> > 'Buddha' is also used as a shortened version of 'Buddha Nature' or > >> > 'Buddha Mind'. You'll hear many people say things like 'everyone is a > >> > Buddha', or 'everyone has a Buddha inside him'. What they should be > >> > saying (IMO) is 'everyone has Buddha Nature' and it is just a matter > >> > of realizing or becoming aware of Buddha Nature which you already have. > >> > > >> > Mel or anyone else, let me know if you understand these terms in a > >> > different way. > >> > > >> > ...Bill! > >> > > >> > --- In [email protected] <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>, > >> > Mel <gunnar19632000@> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > Hello Bill and all > >> > > > >> > > People refer to that Great All out there as 'god', and yet Taoists > >> > have come up with TAO...and many involved with Zen in today's world > >> > have referred to it as 'buddha'. I suppose it really depends from > >> > which religious background the individual comes from. I have not > >> > succeeded yet in going through the whole Bible(both Old and New, plus > >> > the Apocrypha) but I do believe that Christians at least have > >> > enquired(judging from what I had read so far in online scriptural > >> > discussions) whether the One and Supreme Creator has hands, wings, > >> > feet, etc....in other words, an actual, physical being or make. Being > >> > so, the atheist camp would then say things such as,"If so, then Yahweh > >> > can't possibly be in more than one place at the same time"....and yet > >> > all of the Big 3 Faiths teach their followers that the Holy Father > >> > sees all, and knows all. This then brings the question of....how big > >> > is God exactly? Huge to the point that he sees and knows all? Is this > >> > about > >> > > size? How is He exactly...everywhere? > >> > > > >> > > Buddha. The world knows he was just a man. According to the late Zen > >> > teacher Deshimaru-sensei, there are sources to indicate that he died > >> > from eating poisoned food, or pork. However, we do not worship(in the > >> > religious sense) the man who lived long ago. I personally do not know > >> > yet where the idea of 'buddha' being the same as 'god' or 'tao' being > >> > all and one...and the same thing. I personally accept it(minus the > >> > Yahwe part). Let me first point out however, that my only source for > >> > the moment is Zen Mind Beginners Mind...and TaoTeChing(trans., John H > >> > McDonald) to a very limited extent. With Buddha, there are no arms, > >> > legs, eyes...and so forth...to mention, and yet the late Zen teacher > >> > (Shunryu) Suzuki-sensei say that Buddha is everywhere. One may then > >> > conclude...does Yahweh rest within Buddha's realm? If Yahweh has an > >> > actual physical form, does He then exist within Buddha's embrace? I > >> > personally do not know, but I can only speak of what I believe, or > >> > > what my personal interpretation(s) is > >> > > > >> > > I have 2 'buddha'-like statues in my room that I bow to before and > >> > after zazen, or when I leave. However, this bowing is no more > >> > different to me when I bow to my meal before I eat, and afterwards. > >> > With this in mind, there is a parallel here with the Christian and > >> > Jewish faiths(I'm lacking on info for the moment with Islam on this > >> > one). But, these little 'buddhas' I own are not representative of some > >> > Being out there. They are worthy of respect because they represent > >> > something much higher and worthy than my own dualistic > >> > desires...especially greed and attachment > >> > > > >> > > Having said the above so far, is Buddha then made of air that that > >> > travels around the planet and therefore sees and knows all, and > >> > therefore everywhere? To me personally, Buddha has not got the actual, > >> > physical form I had described above...and yet Buddha is everywhere. > >> > People new to Zen will not comprehend this easily, nor will it sit > >> > easily with them if they understand, because there are no actual > >> > descriptions, instructions, directions of faith or worship...and so on > >> > > > >> > > In Buddha's grace > >> > > Mel > >> > > > >> > > PS. I have mentioned the need for sincerity when it comes to > >> > Zen...or Buddha if one prefers. What this means for the new seekers > >> > is....how badly do you want Buddha? For my part as a Karate student, > >> > the only way I can get through works such as... > >> > > > >> > > - A Book of 5 Rings > >> > > - Hagakure > >> > > > >> > > ...is through Zen/Buddha. No goal, no attainment...if one must die, > >> > then one must die. It's all about living this moment, and the next, > >> > and the next, and the next.... > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > ________________________________ > >> > > From: Bill! <BillSmart@> > >> > > To: [email protected] <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com> > >> > > Sent: Thursday, 12 January 2012 6:50 PM > >> > > Subject: Re: [Zen] New to Group > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Mel, > >> > > > >> > > Just to get you to share a little more with us I'll respond to your > >> > post below: > >> > > > >> > > 'God' is supposed to be everywhere too, just like you said Buddha was. > >> > > > >> > > So, do you think they're both (God and Buddha)in the same place > >> > (everywhere) together? Or do you think they are the same thing? Or what? > >> > > > >> > > ...Bill! > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! 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