On 2/10/2012 4:45 PM, Anthony Wu wrote:
You say, 'Better to drop this idea of "suffering".'
How can? If you are in great pain, e.g. due to cancer, can you 'drop'
the idea?
You pick through my words, hoping to find something that conforms to
what you want to believe, while what I'm getting at slips through your
fingers.
Pain is information. Act on it (by simply being with it, and taking
actions to ameliorate when possible).
Suffering is disinformation. Cease creating it.
Pain is sensation that arises. Suffering is sensationalizing what arises.
Pain arises choicelessly. Suffering is the rejection of/attachment to
that pain, falsely believing (out of hope/fear) we can chose something
other than what is present.
How many more ways does it need to be said?
Look at it. In you, not others. There is only one mind you can use for this.
You alsao say, 'A master helps by pointing, and points by helping.'
In the case of an accident in China a few months ago, a toddler was
run over by a van, bleeding and crying. 18 people passed by without
taking action. Then would the master do enough by 'pointing'?
You're spinning different stories (tragic, yes - but I cannot help you
now by going into the past or potential futures). Each used to repeat
the same thinly veiled accusations against imagined people not living up
to your imagined notions of how a "master" is supposed to behave.
The end of suffering is not realized by exploring such hypothetical
pondering (of real or imagined situations). I was not being glib when I
said "only your expectations can fail you" (this being yet another form
of suffering).
What a "master" does or does not do has no effect on suffering. They can
only point to its nature, which when seen for what it is, makes it clear
cessation the only path to ending it. This ending is effortless, a side
effect of realizing the suffering was false/empty to begin with.
Being free of suffering, allows us to deal with pain directly (be seeing
we always were).
Until you realize the nature of suffering, everything that arises will
appear as some form of suffering (supporting the fundamental delusion of
me/mine/not mine). End your own suffering (regardless of what pain
arises), then worry about the suffering of "all sentient beings".
Long story short: Try to see where I'm pointing, without getting stuck
on this or that point.
Be the answer.
K