it requires practise ed..it is not an overnight success story...one day at a 
time...and remember to breathe...deeply and long and wait before you strike!

 zen has a sting...that can quieten the most agitated mind...
 merle
  
ED,

Okay, that comment really struck a chord. I do believe that our personal 
psychology integrates with our spirituality. I also believe we somehow create 
our own realities, although I couldn't explain it. I've seen "therapists" 
before and found them to be little more than sounding boards with very limited 
insight. However, I do know of a "Zen Therapist" whom I'm really impressed 
with, but I'll have to pay out of pocket. You know what? It may be money well 
spent! 

The quandary I've shared here is simple, which works: Pacifist Zen techniques 
(not sure if it's really practical in mainstream society), or a mixture of 
healthy assertiveness in order to maintain your Zen (I envision it as sorta' 
standing up for your right to be Zen by earning respect...?). Buddha probably 
wouldn't agree, but I'm being practical here.

I'm just feeling my way in the dark here. Zen does wonders for me and I've 
barely scratched the surface. Yet, I can now see how many would mistake it for 
weakness... Therefore I begin to visualize it somewhat like "The Force" from 
Star Wars (I'm a SW geek, too). It's a peaceable practice, but sometimes you 
have to fight for what you believe in. Someone feel free to debate that, but 
lets talk practical here. 

--- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> There's a choice between these 'human potential' trainings, or seeing a
> psychotherapist/psychologist to gain understanding into how one creates
> one's own dysfunctional reality, or of just sitting, or of following a
> Buddhist or zen path or ...   These are not necessarily mutually
> exclusive choices.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], mike brown <uerusuboyo@> wrote:
> >
> > Robenzo,
> >
> > If you want to learn psychological 'tricks' (Some say 'techniques') to
> become assertive, then your brother's suggestion might be just what you
> need. However, if you desire to know yourself, then you've come
> to the wrong place, too. If you cut off your arm to prove yourÂ
> commitment, then maybe, just maybe you've come to the right placeÂ
> (But don't count on it).
> >
> > Mike
> 
> 
> 
> > --- On Fri, 27/4/12, robenzo72 robenzo72@ wrote:
> >
> > I'm here to learn. I'm also here because I believe the collective
> wisdom/knowledge here can provide answers that would otherwise take me
> who knows how long to discover.
> >
> > Here's my latest "Zen Perplexity": Suffice to say that I deal with
> some rather difficult people in my life. One might even say
> "unnecessarily difficult," or even label it has harassment. No kidding.
> I'm just a very peace-loving dude, but I'm also like a hate magnet that
> draws peoples' ire without falter.
> >
> > This I know: I cannot change the behavior of others, I can only alter
> mine. However, the Universe provides me with endless opportunities to
> find "Zen" in order to just cope with life.
> >
> > I was actually so upset today (as I say, I lost my Zen) that I phoned
> my brother about it. He's not a Zen Buddhist, but does subscribe to
> another Eastern religion (Ananda Marga). Anyways, after I'd told him
> that my "Zen" was depleted and therefore I had to exit a situation, he
> suggested that rather than trying to be so "Zen-like," that I needed
> "assertiveness training." Hmm... Assertiveness is a necessary skill, but
> it also leads to ego "stuff" and altercations.
> >
> > So, I'm really just in a quandary. Rarely do you see Zen text
> instructing assertiveness in difficult situations (unless I'm mistaken).
> I've also thought it conceivable that I just have a low level of it, but
> that's neither here nor there. Thoughts?
> >
>


 

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