Re: [Zen] Assertiveness vs. Zen = Perplexed!

[ED]

Comparing apples with apples, namely the two different 'treatments': If
a reduction in neuroses and an amelioration of personality 'disorders'
are potential tangible benefits of pychotherapy, what are the potential
tangible beneficial effects of zazen?



--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mike brown <uerusuboyo@...> wrote:
>
> I disagree. All the psychotherapy in the world will not lead one to
awakening (and it's not designed to) and neither does it follow that a
Zen awakening will wipe out all our neuroses and personality
'disorders'.