Hi Merle,

Never met Jobs. My opinion of him and Apple is they started out great with 
their Macs (I have a PowerMac with 30" screen) but all this Ipadpod stuff is 
fluff -pop but not serious stuff.... And now I even have problems with my 
PowerMac...

Edgar


On May 3, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Merle Lester wrote:

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> buddhism and zen reached these australian shores in mid 1960's.
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> it was rare to meet anyone who knew anything about buddhism and certainly not 
> zen..
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>  now we have the buddhist temples..etc. and yoga teachers are 
> everywhere..it's all mainstream.
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>  tai chi is on the rise as well
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>  saw a doco on steve jobs last night...he was apparently into zen meditation..
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> so what's your take on steve jobs edgar?..
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>  did you meet him when you were the hippy in california woodstock days, edgar?
> 
>  would you agree he has coupled science/ technology/ business and married it 
> to humanity through the creative process?
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>  cheers 
> 
>  merle
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>> Interesting but take with a grain of salt.... Edgar
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>> Stanford scholar tracks meditation's migration from ancient monasteries to 
>> modern yoga
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>> May 2nd, 2012 in Psychology & Psychiatry 
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>> For many Americans, "yoga" conjures up mental images of athletic-minded 
>> people engaging in a simultaneous "warrior pose" while being told to focus 
>> on their breathing.
>> What many yoga enthusiasts may not realize is that this athletic practice 
>> represents only one of the various ways in which aspects of Buddhism have 
>> infiltrated the secular American culture.
>> From its start, Buddhism has emphasized the achievement of a state of 
>> liberation and enlightenment, which can be achieved through a variety of 
>> methods, including meditation. Historically, this mentally challenging 
>> practice has been limited to monasteries and not even utilized by the 
>> typical Buddhist. Over time, however, the less technical forms of meditation 
>> have become popular in the United States – a glimpse of which can be seen in 
>> the athletic practice of yoga and its focus on counting one's measured 
>> breaths.
>> Religious Studies Professor Carl Bielefeldt has dedicated his academic 
>> career to the study of 13th century Japanese Zen, a tradition of Buddhism 
>> that emphasizes the practice of meditation. As Bielefeldt describes it, the 
>> deep visualization of more technical meditation could not realistically play 
>> a role in modern American life. "I am not going to get up in the morning and 
>> enter into a deep state of trance and visualize something because then I 
>> will be late for work, so instead I will get up in the morning and watch my 
>> breath in and out."
>> Tracing the route to modern Buddhist meditation
>> As the editor of a project to translate the scriptures of the largest school 
>> of Zen in Japan, the Soto Zen School, Bielefeldt is shedding light on the 
>> works of the 13th century Zen master Dōgen.
>> Bielefeldt said he is providing annotation and translation of the master's 
>> often-obscure essays in hopes that the English translation will help his 
>> work to be more accessible to the international community.
>> Buddhist meditation has taken a long journey to reach U.S. shores. While it 
>> technically began in China in the seventh century, it was not popular in 
>> countries such as Japan and Korea until approximately 1200.
>> When Japan opened itself to the West in the 19th century, Buddhism changed 
>> forever. As Western ideas of religion and the academic field of religious 
>> studies began to flood into the country, many citizens began to view their 
>> spiritual practice of Buddhism as a form of religion for the first time.
>> Not only did Western influence come into the country, but Japanese 
>> traditions of Zen flowed out as well. "Zen became popular in the West, but 
>> then there was a certain kind of feedback system where people in Japan 
>> became more interested in Zen, saying 'Oh, other people outside of Japan 
>> find this interesting, maybe there is something more to it,' " Bielefeldt 
>> said.
>> Despite this feedback system, the movement of meditation from the 
>> monasteries to ordinary communities in Japan and other Asian nations did not 
>> rival the movement in the United States. As Buddhism moved to the western 
>> hemisphere, meditation began to spread into the broader cultures, even 
>> outside of the religious realm. Today, Bielefeldt notes, meditation is used 
>> in health care as a way of coping with pain and in the sports industry as a 
>> way to focus the mind.
>> "We [Americans] don't really have much example, certainly to this degree, of 
>> a religion escaping from its religious tradition and background and 
>> community into the broader culture," said Bielefeldt. "We are looking at a 
>> religion that is going to have broader diffuse influence on American culture 
>> than any other major religion."
>> Bringing meditation theory into the classroom
>> Recently, Bielefeldt brought his broader interest in meditation into the 
>> classroom. His winter-quarter class on Buddhist Yoga was created to give 
>> students a basic understanding of meditation's role within Buddhism and 
>> societies across the globe.
>> Bielefeldt connected with students through an emphasis on meditation's 
>> journey from Japanese monasteries to San Francisco apartments.
>> "Meditation appeals to what is more interesting, typically, about Buddhism," 
>> said Bielefeldt. "It is a religion in which we can do something, do a 
>> practice, a kind of utilitarian or therapeutic practice."
>> The class focused on meditation as a form of Buddhist soteriology or, in 
>> other words, as a theory of salvation or "what people in the religion want 
>> or expect to get, hope to get, and how they get it."
>> In class, Bielefeldt focused on the meditation path taken by some Buddhists 
>> to achieve this salvation. Buddhism, unlike other religions, is not a way of 
>> life, but rather a means to get from one state to another. "Buddhism is 
>> often said to be a raft that takes you from one shore to the other shore," 
>> said Bielefeldt. "Then you don't carry the raft with you afterwards."
>> Buddhists generally strive to achieve the three elements of the spiritual 
>> discipline before they can reach their desired end state of awakening: 
>> ethics, mental (including meditation) and wisdom. "Meditation is a kind of 
>> door between the elements," said Bielefeldt. "In one sense it's a kind of 
>> behavior, so it has to do with ethic. In another sense it involves certain 
>> states of understanding, so it is connected with wisdom."
>> While some Buddhists approach meditation through the traditional practice of 
>> visualization, "It is really complex and requires a lot of work," said 
>> Bielefeldt. "It is not a thing that you can just sit down and do on a 
>> Saturday."
>> The technicality of this meditation has, for the most part, been limited to 
>> Buddhists in monasteries rather than ordinary practicing Buddhists. It is 
>> only since the 20th century that there have been concerted efforts to bring 
>> meditation practices out of the monasteries.
>> Through this movement, the more popular forms of meditation have been the 
>> less technical ones, the "mindfulness practices." These mindfulness 
>> practices, however, have taken a much stronger hold in ordinary communities 
>> in the United States than in many Asian countries.
>> Provided by Stanford University
>> "Stanford scholar tracks meditation's migration from ancient monasteries to 
>> modern yoga." May 2nd, 2012. 
>> http://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-05-stanford-scholar-tracks-meditation-migration.html
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