hi edgar

i have a mac....bought 2 years ago..never had a imac before...i love it touch 
wood.

..the other latest stuff is for young people...on the move..after all they are 
just hand held computers...they listen to music with their ipods.
..we are past this.
.i have a mobile that is 7 years old with a $20 plan a month...that does the job
..had computers when they first came out...commodore 64...etc... i was pissed 
off with bill gates and purchased a gateway operating system... that was not to 
do with Microsoft.....my friend a computer nerd told me gates stole the initial 
ideas......but at the end of the day went back to p.c...gates Microsoft..the 
machines do not last long.

.so saw this imac and was quite impressed...great for photography 

..years ago... one of my art students won  very early macintosh for the art 
dept with his entry of a sculpture in a university competition..

.the  greatest thing about it all is when the internet was developed...the 
global village became alive...

 merle

  
Hi Merle,

Never met Jobs. My opinion of him and Apple is they started out great with 
their Macs (I have a PowerMac with 30" screen) but all this Ipadpod stuff is 
fluff -pop but not serious stuff.... And now I even have problems with my 
PowerMac...

Edgar



On May 3, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Merle Lester wrote:

  
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> saw a doco on steve jobs last night...he was apparently into zen meditation..
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> did you meet him when you were the hippy in california woodstock days, edgar?
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>Interesting but take with a grain of salt.... Edgar
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>>Stanford scholar tracks meditation's migration from ancient monasteries to 
modern yogaMay 2nd, 2012 in Psychology & Psychiatry 
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>>For many Americans, "yoga" conjures up mental images of 
athletic-minded people engaging in a simultaneous "warrior pose" while being 
told to focus on their breathing.
>>What many yoga enthusiasts may not realize is that this athletic practice 
represents only one of the various ways in which aspects of Buddhism have 
infiltrated the secular American culture.
>>From its start, Buddhism has emphasized the achievement of a state of 
liberation and enlightenment, which can be achieved through a variety of 
methods, including meditation. Historically, this mentally challenging practice 
has been limited to monasteries and not even utilized by the typical Buddhist. 
Over time, however, the less technical forms of meditation have become popular 
in the United States – a glimpse of which can be seen in the athletic practice 
of yoga and its focus on counting one's measured breaths. 
>>Religious Studies Professor Carl Bielefeldt has dedicated his academic career 
to the study of 13th century Japanese Zen, a tradition of Buddhism that 
emphasizes the practice of meditation. As Bielefeldt describes it, the deep 
visualization of more technical meditation could not realistically play a role 
in modern American life. "I am not going to get up in the morning and enter 
into 
a deep state of trance and visualize something because then I will be late for 
work, so instead I will get up in the morning and watch my breath in and 
out."
>>Tracing the route to modern Buddhist meditation
>>As the editor of a project to translate the scriptures of the largest school 
of Zen in Japan, the Soto Zen School, Bielefeldt is shedding light on the works 
of the 13th century Zen master Dōgen. 
>>Bielefeldt said he is providing annotation and translation of the master's 
often-obscure essays in hopes that the English translation will help his work 
to 
be more accessible to the international community.
>>Buddhist meditation has taken a long journey to reach U.S. shores. While it 
technically began in China in the seventh century, it was not popular in 
countries such as Japan and Korea until approximately 1200. 
>>When Japan opened itself to the West in the 19th century, Buddhism changed 
forever. As Western ideas of religion and the academic field of religious 
studies began to flood into the country, many citizens began to view their 
spiritual practice of Buddhism as a form of religion for the first time.
>>Not only did Western influence come into the country, but Japanese traditions 
of Zen flowed out as well. "Zen became popular in the West, but then there was 
a 
certain kind of feedback system where people in Japan became more interested in 
Zen, saying 'Oh, other people outside of Japan find this interesting, maybe 
there is something more to it,' " Bielefeldt said.
>>Despite this feedback system, the movement of meditation from the monasteries 
to ordinary communities in Japan and other Asian nations did not rival the 
movement in the United States. As Buddhism moved to the western hemisphere, 
meditation began to spread into the broader cultures, even outside of the 
religious realm. Today, Bielefeldt notes, meditation is used in health care as 
a 
way of coping with pain and in the sports industry as a way to focus the mind. 
>>"We [Americans] don't really have much example, certainly to this degree, of 
a religion escaping from its religious tradition and background and community 
into the broader culture," said Bielefeldt. "We are looking at a religion that 
is going to have broader diffuse influence on American culture than any other 
major religion."
>>Bringing meditation theory into the classroom
>>Recently, Bielefeldt brought his broader interest in meditation into the 
classroom. His winter-quarter class on Buddhist Yoga was created to give 
students a basic understanding of meditation's role within Buddhism and 
societies across the globe. 
>>Bielefeldt connected with students through an emphasis on meditation's 
journey from Japanese monasteries to San Francisco apartments. 
>>"Meditation appeals to what is more interesting, typically, about Buddhism," 
said Bielefeldt. "It is a religion in which we can do something, do a practice, 
a kind of utilitarian or therapeutic practice."
>>The class focused on meditation as a form of Buddhist soteriology or, in 
other words, as a theory of salvation or "what people in the religion want or 
expect to get, hope to get, and how they get it."
>>In class, Bielefeldt focused on the meditation path taken by some Buddhists 
to achieve this salvation. Buddhism, unlike other religions, is not a way of 
life, but rather a means to get from one state to another. "Buddhism is often 
said to be a raft that takes you from one shore to the other shore," said 
Bielefeldt. "Then you don't carry the raft with you afterwards."
>>Buddhists generally strive to achieve the three elements of the spiritual 
discipline before they can reach their desired end state of awakening: ethics, 
mental (including meditation) and wisdom. "Meditation is a kind of door between 
the elements," said Bielefeldt. "In one sense it's a kind of behavior, so it 
has 
to do with ethic. In another sense it involves certain states of understanding, 
so it is connected with wisdom."
>>While some Buddhists approach meditation through the traditional practice of 
visualization, "It is really complex and requires a lot of work," said 
Bielefeldt. "It is not a thing that you can just sit down and do on a 
Saturday."
>>The technicality of this meditation has, for the most part, been limited to 
Buddhists in monasteries rather than ordinary practicing Buddhists. It is only 
since the 20th century that there have been concerted efforts to bring 
meditation practices out of the monasteries. 
>>Through this movement, the more popular forms of meditation have been the 
less technical ones, the "mindfulness practices." These mindfulness practices, 
however, have taken a much stronger hold in ordinary communities in the United 
States than in many Asian countries.
>>Provided by Stanford University
>>"Stanford scholar tracks meditation's migration from ancient monasteries to 
modern yoga." May 2nd, 2012. 
http://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-05-stanford-scholar-tracks-meditation-migration.html
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