Hello Ed,

I just like doing it, quite very much. But I don't really know why or what for.

Siska
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From: "ED" <[email protected]>
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Hi Siska,

What are the objectives (if any) for your meditation and/or yoga
practices?

--ED



--- In [email protected], siska_cen@... wrote:
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Hi Joe,

I came across yin yoga not very long ago and I also found it very close
and quite complementary to my meditation practice.

Do you practise other yoga styles? I found myself quite reluctant and
not responsive to anything that is exciting after yin practice,
including yang yoga. I feel like being still all the time, don't feel
like moving. If I don't do a lot of yin, I enjoy vinyasa a lot. My
teacher always reminds me to have balanced practice - yin and yang.

This also makes me think if sittings and the stillness in it make us
less energetic, which is not necessarily a bad thing. Perhaps, we don't
need to be that energetic because maybe, there are many things we do
while they are not necessary.

Perhaps, I'm simply not balanced, always swayed way to far from the mid
point.

Siska


From: "Joe" <desert_woodworker@...>  Sender: [email protected] 
Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 00:03:27 -0000 To: <[email protected]>
ReplyTo: [email protected]  Subject: [Zen] Re: News: Stanford
scholar tracks meditation's migration from ancient monasteries to modern
yoga

In the article, the "difference" between monastic practice and lay
practice is emphasized.

The difference does not have to be a difference, however (and, indeed, I
*do* take the article referenced with a grain of salt).

As lay students, we still have the opportunity to attend several
sesshin, or intensive retreats, per year with our teacher and our
sangha.

The important thing about zazen is to practice it, not to imagine how it
might be different if we were monks or nuns. We'd still have to
practice... .

Physical practice is also important, to support sitting meditation, and
to improve our health. Chinese Ch'an teachers emphasize this more than
Japanese teachers or their Western successors, and so the Ch'an teachers
are my heroes, and my favorite Bodhisattvas.

Yoga is a fine adjunct to zazen. The recently so-called "Yin-Yoga", deep
and prolonged holding of relaxed poses in order to treat the connective
tissue, is the most useful to my practice. Aerobic exercise is a great
adjunct to influence the diaphragm (muscles), and to enable the deepest
relaxation in zazen, and the smoothest breathing, there; Samadhi
practice becomes possible.

Although lay practice and monastic practice seem different, we can still
benefit from the encouragement of the Chinese Ch'an monastic
teacher, who, in the Golden Age of Ch'an in China, taught that "A day
without work is a day without eating."

The "work" is not desk-work, or cubicle work, but physical work.

To add Yoga to this is even better.

Strong practice, all,

--Joe / Sonoran Desert / Arizona

> Interesting but take with a grain of salt.... Edgar

> > Stanford scholar tracks meditation's migration from ancient
monasteries to modern yoga





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