Grinding a brick to make a mirror? Well, I'll have to reflect on that...
--- In [email protected], Anthony Wu <wuasg@...> wrote:
>
> Bill,
> Â
> I am glad to read one of your coolest statements. Yes, it is great to
> develope scychic powers. When you are ready, please challenge JMJM to have a
> psychic contest.
> Â
> By the way, there is a Chinese story that to get enlightened by sitting zen
> is like grinding a brick to make a mirror. What do you think?
> Â
> Anthony
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Bill! <BillSmart@...>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2012, 6:13
> Subject: [Zen] Re: News: Stanford scholar tracks meditation's migration from
> ancient monasteries to modern yoga
>
>
> Â
> Siska, I know you didn't ask me, but I'd like to respond.
>
> My objectives for my meditation is to do it better than any of my friends.
> They all think they're pretty cool, sitting for hours at a time, seeing
> colors and feeling like they're floating above their cushion. Frankly I'm
> tired of hearing about it. I'd like to develop some powers like pointing at
> someone and making them feel hot, or reading others thoughts.
>
> Do you have any advice for me?
>
> ...Bill!
>
> --- In [email protected], siska_cen@ wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ed,
> >
> > Now I'm wondering, do you have any objectives for meditation? Would you
> > please share?
> >
> > Siska
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: siska_cen@
> > Sender: [email protected]
> > Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 14:12:19
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Reply-To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: News: Stanford scholar tracks meditation's migration
> > from ancient monasteries to modern yoga
> >
> > Hello Ed,
> >
> > I just like doing it, quite very much. But I don't really know why or what
> > for.
> >
> > Siska
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "ED" <seacrofter001@>
> > Sender: [email protected]
> > Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 14:08:22
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Reply-To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [Zen] Re: News: Stanford scholar tracks meditation's migration
> > from ancient monasteries to modern yoga
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Siska,
> >
> > What are the objectives (if any) for your meditation and/or yoga
> > practices?
> >
> > --ED
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In [email protected], siska_cen@ wrote:
> > >
> > Hi Joe,
> >
> > I came across yin yoga not very long ago and I also found it very close
> > and quite complementary to my meditation practice.
> >
> > Do you practise other yoga styles? I found myself quite reluctant and
> > not responsive to anything that is exciting after yin practice,
> > including yang yoga. I feel like being still all the time, don't feel
> > like moving. If I don't do a lot of yin, I enjoy vinyasa a lot. My
> > teacher always reminds me to have balanced practice - yin and yang.
> >
> > This also makes me think if sittings and the stillness in it make us
> > less energetic, which is not necessarily a bad thing. Perhaps, we don't
> > need to be that energetic because maybe, there are many things we do
> > while they are not necessary.
> >
> > Perhaps, I'm simply not balanced, always swayed way to far from the mid
> > point.
> >
> > Siska
> >
> >
> > From: "Joe" <desert_woodworker@> Sender: [email protected]
> > Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 00:03:27 -0000 To: <[email protected]>
> > ReplyTo: [email protected] Subject: [Zen] Re: News: Stanford
> > scholar tracks meditation's migration from ancient monasteries to modern
> > yoga
> >
> > In the article, the "difference" between monastic practice and lay
> > practice is emphasized.
> >
> > The difference does not have to be a difference, however (and, indeed, I
> > *do* take the article referenced with a grain of salt).
> >
> > As lay students, we still have the opportunity to attend several
> > sesshin, or intensive retreats, per year with our teacher and our
> > sangha.
> >
> > The important thing about zazen is to practice it, not to imagine how it
> > might be different if we were monks or nuns. We'd still have to
> > practice... .
> >
> > Physical practice is also important, to support sitting meditation, and
> > to improve our health. Chinese Ch'an teachers emphasize this more than
> > Japanese teachers or their Western successors, and so the Ch'an teachers
> > are my heroes, and my favorite Bodhisattvas.
> >
> > Yoga is a fine adjunct to zazen. The recently so-called "Yin-Yoga", deep
> > and prolonged holding of relaxed poses in order to treat the connective
> > tissue, is the most useful to my practice. Aerobic exercise is a great
> > adjunct to influence the diaphragm (muscles), and to enable the deepest
> > relaxation in zazen, and the smoothest breathing, there; Samadhi
> > practice becomes possible.
> >
> > Although lay practice and monastic practice seem different, we can still
> > benefit from the encouragement of the Chinese Ch'an monastic
> > teacher, who, in the Golden Age of Ch'an in China, taught that "A day
> > without work is a day without eating."
> >
> > The "work" is not desk-work, or cubicle work, but physical work.
> >
> > To add Yoga to this is even better.
> >
> > Strong practice, all,
> >
> > --Joe / Sonoran Desert / Arizona
> >
> > > Interesting but take with a grain of salt.... Edgar
> >
> > > > Stanford scholar tracks meditation's migration from ancient
> > monasteries to modern yoga
> >
>
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