There is nothing "in" Zen, nothing that is not an an aspect of Zen.

Perhaps you were speaking only of what is contained in various teachings some ascribe to Chan/Zen schools of Buddhism, mistaking these for Zen?

Your question, is a form of 'hungry' - look no farther.

K



On 6/13/2012 4:21 AM, Anthony Wu wrote:
Bill,
Is there such a thing in zen called 'compassion', as is there a quality called 'hungry', or as from other categories you name it?
Anthony

*From:* Bill! <[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected]
*Sent:* Wednesday, 13 June 2012, 10:13
*Subject:* [Zen] Re: The Self Illusion

ED,

'Compassion' is a label a 3rd party places on someone else's actions. 'Compassion' as has been discussed in this thread is not something you 'do', its who/what you are. If you're dividing things up into dualistic sets such as compassionate/not compassionate then you've already missed the mark.

'Compassion' is not something you need to think about, much less strive to cultivate - any more than you have to strive to be hungry.

...Bill!

--- In [email protected] <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>, "ED" <seacrofter001@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Hi Bill and All -
>
> Three definitions of compassion from the Internet are:
>
> "Sympathetic pity and concern for the sufferings or misfortunes of
> others."
>
> "A deep awareness of and sympathy for another's suffering.
>
> "The humane quality of understanding the suffering of others and wanting
> to do something about it"
>
> What would a typical Buddhist or zen definition of compassion be?
>
> --ED
>
>
> --- In [email protected] <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com>> ,
> Anthony Wu <wuasg@> wrote:
> >
> > Sheng Yen was a great monk. His word about compassion brings the
> question of the results of zen practice. Does it bring about inhuman
> characteristics of no compassion? He also said, 'sit down and shut up'.
> But that does not rule out the ensuing compassion.
> >
> > Anthony
>





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