K, and that is why all this talk about compassion, idiot or otherwise is
to no avail?
--ED
--- In [email protected], Kristopher Grey <kris@...> wrote:
>
> There is nothing "in" Zen, nothing that is not an an aspect of Zen.
> K
> > Bill,
> > Is there such a thing in zen called 'compassion', as is there a
> > quality called 'hungry', or as from other categories you name it?
> > Anthony
> > ED,
> >
> > 'Compassion' is a label a 3rd party places on someone else's
actions.
> > 'Compassion' as has been discussed in this thread is not something
you
> > 'do', its who/what you are. If you're dividing things up into
> > dualistic sets such as compassionate/not compassionate then you've
> > already missed the mark.
> >
> > 'Compassion' is not something you need to think about, much less
> > strive to cultivate - any more than you have to strive to be hungry.
> >
> > ...Bill!
> > > Hi Bill and All -
> > >
> > > Three definitions of compassion from the Internet are:
> > >
> > > "Sympathetic pity and concern for the sufferings or misfortunes of
> > > others."
> > >
> > > "A deep awareness of and sympathy for another's suffering.
> > >
> > > "The humane quality of understanding the suffering of others and
wanting
> > > to do something about it"
> > >
> > > What would a typical Buddhist or zen definition of compassion be?
> > >
> > > --ED
> > > > Sheng Yen was a great monk. His word about compassion brings the
> > > question of the results of zen practice. Does it bring about
inhuman
> > > characteristics of no compassion? He also said, 'sit down and shut
up'.
> > > But that does not rule out the ensuing compassion.
> > > >
> > > > Anthony
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