The 6th patriarch Hui-Neng is referring to an old story. Take a half dozen steps back, and see what the red bearded barbarian who came from the west had to say to Emperor Wu of Han - known at that time as 'The Emperor Bodhisattva' - before heading north.

Aloha

K

On 6/14/2012 8:18 PM, mike brown wrote:

K,

Wasn't it Huineng who said something like people exist as northerners and southerners, but there is no difference in Buddha Nature between the barbarian and from the north and the holyman from the south. The people I'm concerned with are the barbarians from the north who aren't awakened like the holyman. In the main, the barbarian needs to cultivate compassion thru practice if he is to go from shrinking his enemies head to caring for his enemies sick. Pointing out that - in truth - there is no difference in their Buddha Nature just might not be enough..

With metta

Mike the Barbarian

--- On *Fri, 15/6/12, Kristopher Grey /<[email protected]>/* wrote:


    From: Kristopher Grey <[email protected]>
    Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: The Self Illusion
    To: [email protected]
    Date: Friday, 15 June, 2012, 4:45

    What's to like? ;)

    Why attach this one point, if not to ignore the rest?

    Assuming a position of I like/dislike, a condition identified with
    more/less....  is mind's attachment to mind. Thank you for so
    clearly illustrating my feeble pointing! *L*

    Sure, these thoughts and feelings arise - and preferences for this
    or that are not automatically problems when just aspects of this
    expressing as personality - but seeking is always seeking either
    more, or less - to  feed, or  starve  the hungry ghosts of
    self-like, or self-hate - not realizing self as "more or less"
    (essentially) empty - an interdependency without independent
    origination - thus lacking nothing.

    K




    On 6/14/2012 2:07 PM, mike brown wrote:

    K,

    >Compassion does not require you understand, like, condone, or
    otherwise be "OK" with people who do terrible things<

    You've just defined 'compassion' out of existence. I like that
    even more.

    Mike




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