indeed merle We can do nothing else.
K
On 6/15/2012 6:41 AM, mike brown wrote:
>K,
>
>Half dozen steps back
>No one to travel North with
>North, South, East, West meet.
>
>But this is only half the story (That our true
nature is already pure and enlightened). I share
Huineneg's student Shen Hui's view:
>
> "All those who want to learn the Tao (Way) must
achieve Sudden Enlightenment to be followed by
Gradual Cultivation. It is like child-birth, which
is a sudden affair, but the child will require a
long process of nurture and education before he
attains his full bodily and intellectual growth."
>
>Mike
>
>--- On Fri, 15/6/12, Kristopher Grey <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>From: Kristopher Grey <[email protected]>
>>Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: The Self Illusion
>>To: [email protected]
>>Date: Friday, 15 June, 2012, 14:37
>>
>>
>>
>>The 6th patriarch Hui-Neng is referring to an old story. Take a half dozen
>>steps back, and see what the red bearded barbarian who came from the west had
>>to say to Emperor Wu of Han - known at that time as 'The Emperor Bodhisattva'
>>- before heading north.
>>
>>Aloha
>>
>>K
>>
>>On 6/14/2012 8:18 PM, mike brown wrote:
>>
>>>K,
>>>
>>>Wasn't it Huineng who said
something like people exist
as northerners and
southerners, but there is no
difference in Buddha Nature
between the barbarian and
from the north and the
holyman from the south. The
people I'm concerned with
are the barbarians from the
north who aren't awakened
like the holyman. In the
main, the barbarian needs to
cultivate compassion thru
practice if he is to go from
shrinking his enemies head
to caring for his enemies
sick. Pointing out that - in
truth - there is no
difference in their Buddha
Nature just might not be
enough..
>>>
>>>With metta
>>>
>>>Mike the Barbarian
>>>
>>>--- On Fri, 15/6/12, Kristopher Grey <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: Kristopher Grey <[email protected]>
>>>>Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: The
Self Illusion
>>>>To: [email protected]
>>>>Date: Friday, 15 June,
2012, 4:45
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>What's to like? ;)
>>>>
>>>>Why attach this
one point, if not
to ignore the
rest?
>>>>
>>>>Assuming a
position of I
like/dislike, a
condition
identified with
more/less.... is
mind's attachment
to mind. Thank you
for so clearly
illustrating my
feeble pointing!
*L*
>>>>
>>>>Sure, these
thoughts and
feelings arise -
and preferences
for this or that
are not
automatically
problems when just
aspects of this
expressing as
personality - but
seeking is always
seeking either
more, or less -
to feed, or
starve the hungry
ghosts of
self-like, or
self-hate - not
realizing self as
"more or less"
(essentially)
empty - an
interdependency
without
independent
origination - thus
lacking nothing.
>>>>
>>>>K
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On 6/14/2012 2:07
PM, mike brown
wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>K,
>>>>>
>>>>>>Compassion
does not
require you
understand,
like, condone,
or otherwise
be "OK" with
people who do
terrible
things<
>>>>>
>>>>>You've just
defined
'compassion'
out of
existence. I
like that even
more.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
