Ed,

"At odds with Zen"?

Probably not, considering that the fellow has a name that does not imply any 
connection with Chan or Zen.

Odds, no, but there may certainly be differences.

Differences are what make a Horse-Race.

I am one who believes and trusts that every tradition has its own logic, and 
its own pedagogy, for its own reasons.  It does not make good sense from any 
perspective to seek to detect "odds", disparities, or dissonances, across 
traditions, really.  Why should it?

Do you think it does?

All we can do is ask *whether* the practitioner at the far end of the practices 
in any school has samadhi-state, which, when it breaks up, leads to the empty 
state.  If it is not so, and if emptiness is not the end-experience, then 
clearly the development is not a zen or chan development, and, although we are 
not at odds with that, nonetheless, it *is* instead something that my late 
Shihfu would call, "Outer Paths", or a way which does not result in BUDDHIST 
enlightenment.

Interesting question, and post!

--Joe

PS  I don't know the personality named.

--- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@...> wrote:

> The above statement appears to be at odds with Zen.  Is it?  --ED



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