Joe,

It could be as you say but for ME it was the combination of the disillusionment 
of other religions (particularly Christianity which looked so promising but 
delivered so little) and the suggestion that zen, even though presented to me 
via Zen Buddhism, was a-religious at it's core.

I'm sure I was influenced by the introduction to zen I got from my first 
teacher - Koryu Roshi.  Like his father before him he was a lay Rinzai master 
and shunned the traditional Buddhist clergy and most of the other Buddhist 
trappings believing them to be corrupted.  I'm sure his approach if nothing 
else reinforced my perspective that I had already developed from my previous 
experiences with religions.

Anyway, it all worked out.  Here I am.

But as you say, it's probably better to latch on to a finger pointing to the 
moon then go wandering around with no direction at all...Bill!  

--- In [email protected], "Joe" <desert_woodworker@...> wrote:
>
> Bill,
> 
> Those religions are as secular as you please.  The religious wrappers are the 
> advertizing for the medicine.  As a mature practitioner, you can see this, or 
> have seen it for a long time.  What we must not do is spoil it for others by 
> lessening the appeal of the sales pitch.  No one can start out where you are. 
>  If they try, they will die unsatisfied.
> 
> --Joe
> 
> > "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote:
> >
> > Buddhism is a religion.
> > 
> > Zen Buddhism is a religion - all the Buddhist parts are the religious parts.
>




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