Bill,

I didn't ask the question below, ED did...

Edgar



On Jul 30, 2012, at 12:33 AM, Bill! wrote:

> Edgar,
> 
> I don't know if you know it or not (I have always assumed you do) that the 
> vast majority of the questions you ask or comments you make seem to be 
> attempts to 'rationalize' Buddha Nature - that is to 'explain' them or 'fit 
> them into' a rational, logical structure such as "evolutionary theory or 
> evolutionary psychology".  That can't be done; or at least can't be done 
> without forcing Buddha Nature into some logical mold which just doesn't fit.  
> In trying to do so you would invariable lose a lot of Buddha Nature and the 
> result would be incomplete at best and detrimentally misleading at worst.
> 
> This is why (and I know you know this!) the historical zen masters responded 
> to questions such as yours with non-rational responses.
> 
> I guess the best answer I can give to your question is 'I don't know', and 
> could quickly follow that with 'I don't care'.  The zen I practice does not 
> focus on 'why' or 'how', as does rationality and especially science', it 
> focuses on only 'what' - as in Just THIS! and Now.  'Why' and 'how' are 
> squarely in the realm of rationality (illusions/maya) and not Buddha Nature.
> 
> My best ATTEMPT at rationalizing an answer to your question would go 
> something like:  'When life came into existence (and I don't know why or how 
> that happened) some life forms (maybe ALL life forms) developed sentient-ness 
> - the ability to be aware.  This for me IS Buddha Nature.  This is 'what', 
> not 'why' or 'how'.  Later on (in my rationalized theory) some sentient 
> beings also developed rationality which is based on dualism.  I can 
> rationally assume that the quality of rationality enhanced their ability to 
> survive and procreate.
> 
> Okay?  ...Bill!        
> 
> --- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@...> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Edgar,
>> 
>> As per evolutionary theory or evolutionary psychology, how could buddha
>> nature have come to be?
>> 
>> --ED
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think in the very distant past what we now call 'awareness of Buddha
>> Nature' was the norm. As human intellect developed and we as a species
>> became more and more dependent and attached to our rational abilities
>> the awareness of Buddha Nature was more and more obscured over time.
>> What Siddhartha Buddha did (as the story goes) was to wipe away this
>> obscuration revealing (re-revealing really) Buddha Nature which was
>> there all the time.
>> 
> 



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