HI Mike,
Indeed. Staying and maintaining Jhanic states is a sign that our body,
mind and spirit are one. After we reach this state, with the right
teacher, we'll learn how to "know", how to "detect karma" and "transfer
karma", or in other words, "heal the body and ferry the spirit" of
others, be transmitted with Buddha Heart Imprint --- all in the formless
domain beyond our logical mind and our senses.
That's my witness, jm
On 8/1/2012 9:29 AM, mike brown wrote:
JMJM,
I tend to agree that insights into the Ttruth are found in samadhi and
the jhanic states BUT they are still states of mind. The important
thing is to bring those insights into our everyday life. For example,
thru insight meditation I have found that it is not that suffering
disappears, but the 'me' who suffers that disappears. Such freedom!
But this is very hard to maintain in the market place of everyday
life. That's why those states (Jhanic) need to be protected thru out
the day. To sit on a cushion after a samsaric (is that a word?) day in
the world makes it almost impossible to reach the type of
concentration required to enter the jhanas/samadhi. It is quite
possible to sit on a cushion and count your breath tho ; )
Mike
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*From:* 覺妙精明 （JMJM） <[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected]
*Cc:* ED <[email protected]>
*Sent:* Wednesday, 1 August 2012, 17:03
*Subject:* Re: [Zen] Zen, samadhi and jhanas,
Hi ED,
I respect your endless spirit in "learning/understanding." Yet Chan
can not be understood, because the truth is in the states of Jhana, or
deepest meditative realm. That's what's repeated empathized by my
Teachers. JM
On 8/1/2012 8:51 AM, ED wrote:
Bill, Mike, Joe and all,
I know of koan practice and shikantaza in zen. Do Zen teachers ever
recommend other types of meditation, or the attainment of jhana states?
--ED
