ED.

I can only speak for myself, but the two zen teachers I had access to used 
EVERYTHING as meditative practice.  Examples other than the ones you gave are 
chanting, bowing, kinhin, eating, household chores, gardening, bushing your 
teeth, CLEANING YOUR BOWLS, etc... - virtually anything can be used as a 
technique to practice meditation.

...Bill! 

--- In [email protected], "ED" <seacrofter001@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> 
> Bill, Mike, Joe and all,
> 
> I know of koan practice and shikantaza in zen.  Do Zen teachers ever
> recommend other types of meditation, or the attainment of jhana states?
> 
> --ED
>




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