Beautifully said

 Bill 




Find what makes your heart sing…and do it! 




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From: Kristopher Grey <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, August 7, 2012 9:06:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Guided Meditation with Joseph Goldstein - YouTube

  
Most into such things would say no. Since this sort of title matters to them, I 
leave it for them to discriminate. I see no choice in this for myself. Just 
sharing, reflecting.

What is a 'zen teacher' but one of the 10,000 things? What are the 10,000 
things 
if not 'zen teachers'? *L*

Tomorrow, I may not appear insightful at all! Who can say? ;)

KG



On 8/7/2012 6:38 PM, Merle Lester wrote:

  
>kg...you hit the nail on the head every time..great insight..thanks for 
>sharing..are you a zen teacher?..merle
>
>  
>On 8/7/2012 11:52 AM, mike brown wrote:
>> ....the insight wisdom you get from the attention/mindfulness you give... 
>
>I understand your meaning, how this appears to function, what the 
>intention and expectation is, but this itself seems to continually 
>reform the trap from which it seeks release.
>
>"Give" and "get" sound an awful lot like two of 'the three poisons'. The 
>third of course being the notion of a giver/getter! Mara loves this 
>sort of samsaric mindfulness - so full of intent and expectation - so 
>self driven/self-sustaining/self-improving.
>
>Such 'insight wisdom', if a hard won attainment, is just a product of 
>'ordinary mind'.
>
>Such 'insight wisdom', if a choiceless/effortless realization of 
>suchness, is also recognition of 'ordinary mind' as 'Buddha mind'. 
>Nothing gained, as nothing lacks.
>
>Please, don't take my word for it.
>
>KG
>
>
>

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