Merle,

Be careful!  Remember the Holy Christian Crusades!  Their purpose was 
essentially to return the Holy City of Jerusalem to Christian control.  And 
that cause a lot of killing on both sides.

You wouldn't want to get accused of Blasphemy now, would you?

...Bill!

--- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
>  and killing people for a cause is not madness...????? merle
>   
> Madness: 
>  
> Anandamayi Ma - would be found rolling around on the floor of her kitchen 
> while the food she was preparing burned. For a long time she only ate 9 
> grains of rice a day.
>  
> Ramana Maharshi - became so oblivious of his body the he didn't wash, his 
> hair grew matted, his finger nails curled over and he only ate if someone put 
> food in his hands. 
>  
> Sri Ramakrishna Paramahansa - became obsessed with the Godess Kali and would 
> not eat or sleep.  He had a vision that took over his normal waking 
> consciousness. Uncertain whether he was living in a hallucination.  He felt 
> burning sensations all over his body and his health began to fail. 
>  
> Bhagawan Nityananda - was seen following a cow and as the cow defecated he 
> would catch the poop and eat it.
>  
> I'm just saying that these behaviors would get you locked up or 
> hospitalized here in the States.  
>  Bill 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Find what makes your heart sing…and do it! 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
>  From: Bill! <BillSmart@...>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Wed, September 5, 2012 10:16:42 PM
> Subject: [Zen] Re: Be Love Now
> 
>   
> Bill,
> 
> That depends on how you define 'madness'.
> 
> Severing your attachment to logic/reason/rationality is a precursor to 
> experiencing Buddha Nature, and I think it is also a requirement.
> 
> ...and that's what I've been saying for the past 30 or so posts!
> 
> ...Bill!
> 
> --- In [email protected], William Rintala <brintala@> wrote:
> >
> > I've read, all that I have been able to find, everything written by Ram 
> > Dass 
> > (born, Richard Alpert), from "Be Here Now" through "The Only Dance There 
> > Is" to 
> > his most recent book "Be Love Now".  His work "Be Here Now", 40 years 
> > ago, was 
> > my starting point on the journey that has lead me to this forum.  His 
> > new book 
> > rehashes a lot of stuff that was in his earlier works. What's
>  new is the last 
> > section where he presents the lives of several Hindu Saints. In each case 
> > the 
> > Saint displayed behavior that I think would get most of us locked up in 
> > a padded 
> > cell or admitted to an ICU and put on heavy doses of medications.  It 
> > seems, 
> > however, that this crisis was essential for the Saint to become fully 
> > realized.  
> > In reading about them I am reminded of the story of Eckhart Tolle's 
> > biography 
> > where " For the best part of two years in the early 1980s a man in his 
> > mid-30s 
> > would sit on a park bench in Russell Square, central London, and in a state 
> > of 
> > deep bliss watch the world go by."  Descriptions sound almost as if he 
> > had had a 
> > schizophrenic break.  
> > 
> > 
> > My question to the Forum is "is madness a precursor to enlightenment?"
> > 
> > Bill not Bill! 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Find what makes your heart sing…and do it!
> >
>




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