Merle,

Actually the way it works out is that Edgar does most of the sifting and 
sorting (reviewing and approving or deleting).  I think that's because of the 
time zone difference.  I'm the one who eventually goes in and changes the 
membership to allow un-moderated, immediate posting.  That is after I'm sure 
the new member is not a pyscho-killer, militant Mulsim or fundamentalist 
Christian.

...Bill!

--- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
>  ah ha..big job for you bill...sifting and sorting? merle
> 
> 
>   
> Merle,
> 
> We both are moderators...
> 
> New member's posts have to be sent to moderators to be approved which causes 
> a delay but that approval period doesn't last very long. I've not had to 
> approve any posts in the last week or so.
> 
> The delays are most likely just because people post responses from different 
> time zones on the other side of reality.
> 
> When I post something it usually appears in my inbox almost immediately...
> 
> Edgar
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sep 8, 2012, at 12:59 AM, Merle Lester wrote:
> 
>   
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  bill you are the moderator or edgar?..merle
> >  
> >Everyone,
> >
> >I just wanted everyone to know that we have many members on this form from 
> >all over the world.  I live in Thailand.  Merle lives in Australia and 
> >Anthony lives in Singapore (I think).  Most of you do live in the USA.
> >
> >The good part about all this is we get a GREAT cross-section of topics and 
> >discussions.  The bad part is some of the replies are delayed as Bill 
> >complains about below.
> >
> >I don't know anyway to fix this.  We'll just have to learn to live with it.
> >
> >...Bill! 
> >
> >--- In [email protected], William Rintala <brintala@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Merle:
> >> 
> >> I'm not sure why you are asking that.  One of my biggest 
> >> problems with this 
> >> email group is the time delay between posts and responses. 
> >> 
> >> My original question was :   "is madness a precursor to 
> >> enlightenment?"
> >> 
> >> To which Bill! responded :  That depends on how you define 'madness'.
> >> 
> >> So I needed the time to research the original scenerios that prompted my 
> >> question. Rereading the sections of the book " Be Love Now" 
> >> that told tales of 
> >> these Hindu saints took me some time.  The behavior seemed so bizarre 
> >> that I 
> >> felt if similar scenes were acted out here in the United States these 
> >> people 
> >> would have been heavily medicated.  Epilepsy, Anorexia, 
> >> Psychosis/Schizophrenia, 
> >> Pica... . These people are revered as realized beings, of having done 
> >> what we 
> >> are speaking about, albeit, not in a Zen fashion. The author goes on to 
> >> say that 
> >> "Indians put up with such behavior within the context of divine madness, 
> >> the 
> >> unpredictable nature of someone beyond body consciousness.". 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>  Bill 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Find what makes your heart sing…and do it! 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@>
> >> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> >> Sent: Fri, September 7, 2012 6:01:18 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Be Love Now
> >> 
> >>   
> >> 
> >> 
> >>  and killing people for a cause is not madness...????? merle
> >>   
> >> Madness: 
> >> 
> >> Anandamayi Ma - would be found rolling around on the floor of her kitchen 
> >> while 
> >> the food she was preparing burned. For a long time she only ate 9 grains 
> >> of rice 
> >> a day.
> >> 
> >> Ramana Maharshi - became so oblivious of his body the he didn't wash, 
> >> his hair 
> >> grew matted, his finger nails curled over and he only ate if someone put 
> >> food in 
> >> his hands. 
> >> 
> >> Sri Ramakrishna Paramahansa - became obsessed with the Godess Kali 
> >> and would not 
> >> eat or sleep.  He had a vision that took over his normal waking 
> >> consciousness. 
> >> Uncertain whether he was living in a hallucination.  He felt burning 
> >> sensations 
> >> all over his body and his health began to fail. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Bhagawan Nityananda - was seen following a cow and as the cow defecated he 
> >> would 
> >> catch the poop and eat it.
> >> 
> >> I'm just saying that these behaviors would get you locked up or 
> >> hospitalized here in the States.  
> >> 
> >>  Bill 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Find what makes your heart sing…and do it! 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Bill! <BillSmart@>
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Sent: Wed, September 5, 2012 10:16:42 PM
> >> Subject: [Zen] Re: Be Love Now
> >> 
> >>   
> >> Bill,
> >> 
> >> That depends on how you define 'madness'.
> >> 
> >> Severing your attachment to logic/reason/rationality is a precursor to 
> >> experiencing Buddha Nature, and I think it is also a requirement.
> >> 
> >> ...and that's what I've been saying for the past 30 or so posts!
> >> 
> >> ...Bill!
> >> 
> >> --- In [email protected], William Rintala <brintala@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I've read, all that I have been able to find, everything written by Ram 
> >> > Dass 
> >> > (born, Richard Alpert), from "Be Here Now" through "The Only 
> >> > Dance There Is" 
> >> >to 
> >> >
> >> > his most recent book "Be Love Now".  His work "Be Here 
> >> > Now", 40 years 
> >> >ago, was 
> >> >
> >> > my starting point on the journey that has lead me to this 
> >> > forum.  His new 
> >> >book 
> >> >
> >> > rehashes a lot of stuff that was in his earlier works. What's new 
> >> > is the last 
> >> 
> >> > section where he presents the lives of several Hindu Saints. In each 
> >> > case the 
> >> > Saint displayed behavior that I think would get most of us 
> >> > locked up in a 
> >> >padded 
> >> >
> >> > cell or admitted to an ICU and put on heavy doses of 
> >> > medications.  It seems, 
> >> > however, that this crisis was essential for the Saint to 
> >> > become fully 
> >> >realized.  
> >> >
> >> > In reading about them I am reminded of the story 
> >> > of Eckhart Tolle's biography 
> >> >
> >> > where " For the best part of two years in the early 1980s a man 
> >> > in his mid-30s 
> >> >
> >> > would sit on a park bench in Russell Square, central London, and in a 
> >> > state of 
> >> 
> >> > deep bliss watch the world go by."  Descriptions sound almost as 
> >> > if he had had 
> >> >a 
> >> >
> >> > schizophrenic break.  
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > My question to the Forum is "is madness a precursor to enlightenment?"
> >> > 
> >> > Bill not Bill! 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > Find what makes your heart sing…and do it!
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>




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