Bill et al, Actually I haven't had to delete any posts at all recently except a couple of obvious commercial spams...
The members here are generally quite responsible compared to other groups I've moderated.... Edgar On Sep 9, 2012, at 4:34 AM, Bill! wrote: > Merle, > > Actually the way it works out is that Edgar does most of the sifting and > sorting (reviewing and approving or deleting). I think that's because of the > time zone difference. I'm the one who eventually goes in and changes the > membership to allow un-moderated, immediate posting. That is after I'm sure > the new member is not a pyscho-killer, militant Mulsim or fundamentalist > Christian. > > ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote: >> >> >> >>  ah ha..big job for you bill...sifting and sorting? merle >> >> >>  >> Merle, >> >> We both are moderators... >> >> New member's posts have to be sent to moderators to be approved which causes >> a delay but that approval period doesn't last very long. I've not had to >> approve any posts in the last week or so. >> >> The delays are most likely just because people post responses from different >> time zones on the other side of reality. >> >> When I post something it usually appears in my inbox almost immediately... >> >> Edgar >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 8, 2012, at 12:59 AM, Merle Lester wrote: >> >>  >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>  bill you are the moderator or edgar?..merle >>>  >>> Everyone, >>> >>> I just wanted everyone to know that we have many members on this form from >>> all over the world. I live in Thailand. Merle lives in Australia and >>> Anthony lives in Singapore (I think). Most of you do live in the USA. >>> >>> The good part about all this is we get a GREAT cross-section of topics and >>> discussions. The bad part is some of the replies are delayed as Bill >>> complains about below. >>> >>> I don't know anyway to fix this. We'll just have to learn to live with it. >>> >>> ...Bill! >>> >>> --- In [email protected], William Rintala <brintala@> wrote: >>>> >>>> Merle: >>>> >>>> I'm not sure why you are asking that. One of my biggest >>>> problems with this >>>> email group is the time delay between posts and responses. >>>> >>>> My original question was :  "is madness a precursor to >>>> enlightenment?" >>>> >>>> To which Bill! responded : That depends on how you define 'madness'. >>>> >>>> So I needed the time to research the original scenerios that prompted my >>>> question. Rereading the sections of the book " Be Love Now" that >>>> told tales of >>>> these Hindu saints took me some time. The behavior seemed so bizarre >>>> that I >>>> felt if similar scenes were acted out here in the United States these >>>> people >>>> would have been heavily medicated. Epilepsy, Anorexia, >>>> Psychosis/Schizophrenia, >>>> Pica... . These people are revered as realized beings, of having done >>>> what we >>>> are speaking about, albeit, not in a Zen fashion. The author goes on to >>>> say that >>>> "Indians put up with such behavior within the context of divine madness, >>>> the >>>> unpredictable nature of someone beyond body consciousness.". >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>  Bill >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Find what makes your heart sing…and do it! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> >>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Fri, September 7, 2012 6:01:18 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Be Love Now >>>> >>>>  >>>> >>>> >>>>  and killing people for a cause is not madness...????? merle >>>>  >>>> Madness: >>>> >>>> Anandamayi Ma - would be found rolling around on the floor of her kitchen >>>> while >>>> the food she was preparing burned. For a long time she only ate 9 grains >>>> of rice >>>> a day. >>>> >>>> Ramana Maharshi - became so oblivious of his body the he didn't wash, >>>> his hair >>>> grew matted, his finger nails curled over and he only ate if someone put >>>> food in >>>> his hands. >>>> >>>> Sri Ramakrishna Paramahansa - became obsessed with the Godess Kali and >>>> would not >>>> eat or sleep. He had a vision that took over his normal waking >>>> consciousness. >>>> Uncertain whether he was living in a hallucination. He felt burning >>>> sensations >>>> all over his body and his health began to fail. >>>> >>>> >>>> Bhagawan Nityananda - was seen following a cow and as the cow defecated he >>>> would >>>> catch the poop and eat it. >>>> >>>> I'm just saying that these behaviors would get you locked up or >>>> hospitalized here in the States. >>>> >>>>  Bill >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Find what makes your heart sing…and do it! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: Bill! <BillSmart@> >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Sent: Wed, September 5, 2012 10:16:42 PM >>>> Subject: [Zen] Re: Be Love Now >>>> >>>>  >>>> Bill, >>>> >>>> That depends on how you define 'madness'. >>>> >>>> Severing your attachment to logic/reason/rationality is a precursor to >>>> experiencing Buddha Nature, and I think it is also a requirement. >>>> >>>> ...and that's what I've been saying for the past 30 or so posts! >>>> >>>> ...Bill! >>>> >>>> --- In [email protected], William Rintala <brintala@> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I've read, all that I have been able to find, everything written by Ram >>>>> Dass >>>>> (born, Richard Alpert), from "Be Here Now" through "The Only >>>>> Dance There Is" >>>>> to >>>>> >>>>> his most recent book "Be Love Now". His work "Be Here >>>>> Now", 40 years >>>>> ago, was >>>>> >>>>> my starting point on the journey that has lead me to this >>>>> forum. His new >>>>> book >>>>> >>>>> rehashes a lot of stuff that was in his earlier works. What's new >>>>> is the last >>>> >>>>> section where he presents the lives of several Hindu Saints. In each case >>>>> the >>>>> Saint displayed behavior that I think would get most of us locked >>>>> up in a >>>>> padded >>>>> >>>>> cell or admitted to an ICU and put on heavy doses of medications. >>>>> It seems, >>>>> however, that this crisis was essential for the Saint to become >>>>> fully >>>>> realized. >>>>> >>>>> In reading about them I am reminded of the story of >>>>> Eckhart Tolle's biography >>>>> >>>>> where " For the best part of two years in the early 1980s a man >>>>> in his mid-30s >>>>> >>>>> would sit on a park bench in Russell Square, central London, and in a >>>>> state of >>>> >>>>> deep bliss watch the world go by." Descriptions sound almost as >>>>> if he had had >>>>> a >>>>> >>>>> schizophrenic break. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> My question to the Forum is "is madness a precursor to enlightenment?" >>>>> >>>>> Bill not Bill! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Find what makes your heart sing…and do it! >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! 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