Sure, I've seen that, but Kazantzakis' best book by far was his 'A Modern Sequel to the Odyssey'... That's a profound classic....
Edgar On Sep 21, 2012, at 6:11 PM, Merle Lester wrote: > > > my fav film is zorba the greek...you seen it?..and "underground."..a > yugoslavian film..merle > > > > Yes, I saw that one too.. > > Edgar > > > > On Sep 21, 2012, at 6:03 PM, Merle Lester wrote: > >> >> >> edgar.... yes yes yes, >> >> .. this reminded me.. did you ever see japanese film.?.." woman of the >> dunes."..well worth a visit. >> ..the sand plays the part of the muck in the pond...beautiful very moving >> film... merle >> >> >> JM and Merle, >> >> Reminds me of an old Japanese movie I saw long ago where the master made the >> disciple shiver all night up to his neck in the muck in a pond. >> >> When the sun rose a lotus flower opened and at that so did the disciple's >> mind.. >> >> Edgar >> >> >> >> On Sep 21, 2012, at 5:28 PM, 覺妙精明 （JMJM） wrote: >> >>> >>> Well Merle. Nicely said. Also sounds simple and wunderbar. For a lotus to >>> blossom however, lots of mud is needed. If we pick and choose in the mud, >>> there will be insufficient nutrients. :-) >>> >>> >>> On 9/21/2012 2:18 PM, Merle Lester wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> JM...yes yes yes open the heart and the lotus will be there....... merle >>>> >>>> >>>> Indeed, KG. Thank you. >>>> >>>> We use the following instructions -- "Focus and not focus. Observe all and >>>> every." Then you see the wisdom in all. >>>> >>>> Even during chakra focusing, it is not a mental focusing. We need to >>>> relax the mind, in order to sense with our heart. Heart is where our >>>> spirit reside. Pure heart means pure awareness. >>>> >>>> Again, a few people, such as Anthony or Bill may "disagree" as usual. >>>> :-) It's actually an experience and not a dogma. >>>> >>>> Newest translation of an old saying(probably version 7), of this phrase >>>> from Buddha, "Cast not in words. Transmit beyond teaching." >>>> >>>> BTW, my team is working on translating "Practice and Witness Diamond >>>> Sutra" from our Shifu. I know. I know. It's courageous. If there is any >>>> online version of Diamond Sutra you sync with, please share with me. Much >>>> obliged. >>>> >>>> jm >>>> >>>> On 9/21/2012 9:18 AM, Kristopher Grey wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> When we think of 'mindfulness', we may think of not being distracted, but >>>>> distraction fills the mind just as effectively. Silence, is the ultimate >>>>> distraction. >>>>> >>>>> Concentration or distraction, different in form only. Both are moments of >>>>> attention to this and not that, in that moment, then gone. Effort applied >>>>> to cultivate mindfulness is often merely a distraction from distractions. >>>>> Mindfulness presents formlessly in all forms. Attempts to be mindful, to >>>>> wrest it from the rest, naturally will fail to grasp this. >>>>> >>>>> Concentration cannot free the mind, distraction cannot hold it. Thoughts >>>>> come and go effortlessly. This is not a problem. Following them or >>>>> ignoring them, grasping and rejecting them - in relation to self - >>>>> reveals ordinary mind's habitual ignorance of Original mind. >>>>> >>>>> Mindfulness allows dis-tractions to serve as reminders not to seek >>>>> traction. >>>>> >>>>> KG >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 9/21/2012 1:51 AM, Anthony Wu wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Bill!, >>>>>> >>>>>> Some guests are stubborn. You can tell them you are busy or write down >>>>>> what they want, they still insist on sitting on your sofa and making tea >>>>>> out of your teapot. Master Seung Sahn has a koan where a burly man keeps >>>>>> dropping ash on a Buddha image, and nothing can dissuage them. He is >>>>>> also strong that there is no way you or your family can beat him. What >>>>>> should you do? I have not had the answer to this koan. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anthony >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Bill! <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Sent: Friday, 21 September 2012, 9:40 >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Zen] invasion >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Anthony, >>>>>> >>>>>> I was always told to just let the thoughts 'flow through you', >>>>>> acknowledge them but then let them go. The teaching analogy that went >>>>>> with this is 'when you're busy working in your house and someone comes >>>>>> and knocks on your door, acknowledge them but tell them you're busy and >>>>>> ask them to come back later. Don't invite them in for tea and a >>>>>> conversation.' >>>>>> >>>>>> Some zen practitioners I know suggest keeping a notebook and pen/pencil >>>>>> near you when you meditate. That way if a thought comes that you >>>>>> just cannot get rid of you can >>>>>> write it down, and then can go back to meditating with the assurance you >>>>>> will attend to the thought later. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've never done that nor felt the need to do that, but it might be worth >>>>>> a try if these thoughts/questions are keeping you from meditating. >>>>>> >>>>>> ...Bill! >>>>>> >>>>>> --- In mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com, Anthony Wu <wuasg@...> wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > KG, >>>>>> > Â >>>>>> > Some say you should not suppress questions when you meditate, but let >>>>>> > them come and go. Well they come here to stay. It takes time and >>>>>> > effort to make them disappear. >>>>>> > Â >>>>>> > Anthony >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > ________________________________ >>>>>> > From: Kristopher Grey <kris@...> >>>>>> > To: mailto:Zen_Forum%40yahoogroups.com >>>>>> > Sent: Thursday, 20 September 2012, 9:38 >>>>>> > Subject: Re: [Zen] invasion >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Â >>>>>> > Same problem is created by attachment to thinking "well" applies to >>>>>> > meditation! *L* >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Your "tip", perhaps pointier than it may appear! ;) >>>>>> > >>>>>> > KG >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On 9/19/2012 6:09 PM, Anthony Wu wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Â >>>>>> > >Merle, >>>>>> > >Â >>>>>> > >I give yo a tip. If you always want questions to be answered, you can >>>>>> > >never meditate well. >>>>>> > >Â >>>>>> > >Anthony >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > >
