In many countries today, and even the USA in some states some years ago, indignant and mentally retarded people are forcibly rendered infertile, although I don't think that means they were neutered - but it might.
Just in case anyone is wondering this statement doesn't mean I recommend or approve of that. ...Bill! --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: > > Joe, > > The fact that some animals may get sick or have a bad time is NOT a reason to > kill them. If that was the criterion then any species including humans would > be fair game and should be killed... > > If you don't want your cat to have contact with feral cats then keep it > inside - don't go out and trap and kill the feral cats. That's not fair... > > What actually happens today is that feral cats are trapped and killed. They > are NOT neutered and released. > > Edgar > > > > On Oct 7, 2012, at 9:49 PM, desert_woodworker wrote: > > > Edgar, > > > > You have a point. > > > > But, you say "killing"? (I didn't). > > > > I live in cities, and always have done. > > > > Except when I lived for years in the Andes on the observatory mountain, > > among Puma. > > > > In cities, feral cats are not in a state of nature, even here in the State > > of Arizona. They are dependent on humans, and this is why they are called > > domestic cats. There is a lot of pressure on them. > > > > If they are dependent on humans, it is humans's responsibility to limit > > their numbers, so many do not die of starvation, nor undergo scourges of > > disease which cityscapes bring to feral animals. > > > > "Kitty-AIDS" is rampant, and so is Hepatitis, among the ferals. The ferals > > sniff or scratch the noses of domestic cats, and infect the domestic cats. > > > > So, there are reasons to interact, act, and react. Are these the reasons > > you were looking for? > > > > Is feeding a feral cat "interfering with nature"? > > > > No: it's interfering with a domestic-cat population. > > > > Well, it is definitely interacting. > > > > Even if we don't "interfere", we have no choice but to interact. Some folks > > interact as they feel is best for the animals and for the humans (in other > > words, for Nature). Neutering is one way people jump in to make a > > difference. > > > > Not too fine a point on it, I don't think. > > > > I would be against killing feral cats, unless they were rabid. I advocate > > neutering them so populations won't grow in town. Out of town, let them be, > > if they choose to live in the wild. Predation there will cull their growth. > > Coyotes here are real pet killers, and not timid to come into town along > > washes, arroyos, etc. I lost a 17-year old Tuxedo cat to a coyote in the > > middle of town: "Mikey". I see their lanky legs trotting in the morning > > twilight light here, a block or two from intersecting 5-lane major city > > thoroughfares. > > > > --Joe > > > > > Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote: > > > > > > Why in the world would you want to interfere with nature? Let them all be > > > I say. Why do humans insist on trapping and killing wild cats instead of > > > letting them live as part of nature? > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
