How can say that the world is overpopulated with Humans or that the species 
isn't balanced by nature.  It's true that we haven't had a worldwide plague 
since the flu outbreak 100 years ago but 100 years is small potatoes. 
Population 
centers in the millions
such as  Tokyo - 32,450,000  Seóul - 20,550,000  Mexico City- 20,450,000  New 
York City - 19,750,000  Mumbai - 19,200,000  Jakarta - 18,900,000 Sáo Paulo - 
18,850,000  Delhi - 18,680,000 Õsaka/Kobe - 17,350,000 and so on are perfect 
incubators for disaster.  We'll all move in with Joe and Merle when it happens 
and it will.  It has happened repeatedly throughout history. We live in a 
closed 
system that will balance itself at our expense soon enough.  All we have to do 
is give it time and we have plenty of time, an infinity.


B 




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________________________________
From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, October 8, 2012 3:51:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: I need some practice advice

  
Joe, 

3-4 million cats and dogs are 'euthanized' by 'shelters' every year in the US. 
More cats than dogs.

There is NO overpopulation of feral cats or dogs. That's a human misperception. 
Nature balances all populations naturally to meet resources. Wild dogs and cats 
replace wild predators humans have killed off. They serve a valuable function 
in 
the balance of nature..

The ONLY species that is overpopulated is HUMANS because only the human species 
is not properly balanced by nature.

The notion that you have to kill a living sentient being to prevent the 
possibility of it suffering sometime in the future is BARBARIC.... If that were 
good ethics it should be applied to humans also.

Edgar




On Oct 8, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Joe wrote:

  
>Edgar,
>
>In my rescuing of feral cats, they are NOT killed. I don't know who or what 
>else 
>you may have in mind there; but it doesn't happen, the way I do it.
>
>When I bring cats to the clinic for spaying, I pick them up again the same 
>evening. Charge is usually US $20, but sometimes less (some clinics work by 
>Donation).
>
>Then, I assiduously feed and water them outdoors all their lives, or adopt and 
>domesticate them as indoor cats. Well, I've been doing this since 1961; so 
>far, 
>good results! in the several states I've lived in.
>
>This is a relatively recent method of population-control also in Mosquitoes: 
>sterile females are released by State labs into the surroundings at West Nile 
>hot-spots, and they "breed" with males, but produce no offspring: this results 
>in less West Nile virus disease in humans and other animals, and an overall 
>drop 
>in 'squito population over time. I think this is a Wise and Compassionate 
>practice.
>
>--Joe
>
>PS As far as euthanizing rabid dogs or Coyotes is concerned, well, have you 
>ever 
>seen a child suffering from rabies who'd been bitten? A rabid animal's 
>prognosis 
>for recovery and survival is zero, and so will die. Euthanizing cuts short the 
>animal's own suffering, and the damage and suffering it might inflict on 
>others. 
>It is wise and compassionate action. I don't think it ignores or violates the 
>First Precept of "No Killing".
>
>> Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
>>
>> The fact that some animals may get sick or have a bad time is NOT a reason 
>> to 
>>kill them.
>
>

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