Joe Thanks for such long mail. Please read Siddha Thirumular song below
The senseless fools donning sacred thread and matted locks, And with chanting phrases pretend to wisdom unpossessed, Them, the ruler shall, with wise men’s help, take and test, Let the entire world attain the bliss I have attained If the name of the Lord chanted by the great ones is repeated *Within the heart will arise a thrilling unstruck sound* Which, when practised, will lead to realization Also read from the life of Ramana Maharishi Self-Realization Venkataraman did not have to wait for long, nor had he to strive for it. It was about the middle of the year 1896; Venkataraman was not yet seventeen. One day he was sitting up alone on the first floor of his uncle’s house. He was in his usual robust health. But a sudden and unmistakable fear of death took hold of him. He felt he was going to die. Why this feeling should have come to him he did not know. The feeling of impending death, however, did not unnerve him. He calmly thought about what he should do. He said to himself: ‘Now, death has come. What does it mean? What is it that is dying? This body dies.’ Immediately he lay down stretching his limbs out and holding them stiff as though rigor mortis had set in. He held his breath and kept his lips tightly closed, so that to all outward appearance his body resembled a corpse. Now, what would happen? This was what he thought: Well, this body is now dead. It will be carried to the burning ground and there burnt and reduced to ashes. But with the death, of this body am I dead? Is the body I? This body is silent and inert. But I feel the full force of my personality and even the voice of the “I” within me, apart from it. So I am the Spirit transcending the body. The body dies but the Spirit that transcends it cannot be touched by death. That means I am the deathless Spirit. As Bhagavan Sri Ramana narrated this experience later on for the benefit of his devotees it looked as though this was a process of reasoning. But he took care to explain that this was not so. The realization came to him in a flash. He perceived the truth directly. ‘I’ was something very real, the only real thing. Fear of death had vanished once and for all. From then on, ‘I’ continued like the* fundamental sruti note* that underlies and blends with all the other notes. Ramana Maharishi mention this as sruti box fundemental note. This is what I hear. This had happened last year, more than year over. When I told to my wife for the first time, she had laughed and said go to ENT doctor. And few days later when I told she got annoyed and afraid, whether I will leave the home and go as sannyasi. So from then I do not like to tell anyone. Since this is a Zen forum and most are delighted in meditation I have mentioned here. This sound actually now a days more profound even while watching TV you can hear this, I can be just still with out recording those moments happening in front of you. Please read Eckhart Tolle, he mention this indirect way. He says when you are going in a car, just when you reached your destination, just switch off the engine and sit there for few minutes (you will not die in few minutes), so that you can feel something different. So try like what Eckhart explained, you may get this sound. Once you feel it, you will not think in this way. Best wishes Suresh suresh On Oct 21, 2012 3:03 AM, "Joe" <[email protected]> wrote: > [image: Boxbe] <https://www.boxbe.com/overview> This message is eligible > for Automatic Cleanup! 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If we have occasion to go to > silent places, they become easily evident. And I know that a person can use > them as a focus of attention in concentration exercises, or even > meditation. I believe there is a large literature about these practices, > particularly in Hindu Yogic concentration and meditation practices, is that > right? Maybe not so much in Buddhism. > > I note that, although I have heard these sounds all my life, and have > studied them from within at times, they cannot be detected by instruments. > I suspect that some component of the sounds may be "ultrasonic", and > contain frequencies that are higher than normal human hearing usually > detects -- say, above 16000 Hz -- but... I have never learned that > instruments could detect these sounds, which we hear with our ears (we > say). > > Thus, I believe these sounds are Human, a part of our Nature. It does not > seem that they are a part of the environment, or are within the atmospheric > environment of air, and other sounds. > > On an unrelated point..., I have heard in Medical circles that, if we go > near to the ear of a person with pronounced tinnitus, and place our ear > near their "bad" ear, we can hear the tinnitus sound that they hear. Or, a > microphone can be placed to the ear of the tinnitus-inflicted person, and a > recording can be made of the tinnitus sounds. > > If that is truly the case, then the ear of the tinnitus-sufferer is acting > as a transducer, or as a SPEAKER, allowing us to hear sounds produced by > electrical signals from their nervous system or brain. This would be > fascinating if this is true! > > Can you confirm this medical hearsay, Suresh? > > Thank you! > > --Joe / Arizona > > > SURESH JAGADEESAN <varamtha@...> wrote: > > > > Bill > > > > It is not blood pressure. This sound will appear when you are more > relaxed. > > This is certainly not a medical issue. > > > >
